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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 05:32 PM
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Democratic Underground, an ostensibly politics oriented forum, does not have a place conducive to discussion of politics.

GDP is a nasty place where most GDers will not set foot. It takes two sides to make a riot. It doesn't matter who, if anyone, is to blame for GDP's alienating nature... it's just what it is.

GD is too big and fast moving for discussion. Posts drop too fast... more like a bulletin board. And most posts in GD are not about politics. (Except insofar as everything is about politics, including celebrity scandals and shocking tales of retail-clerk misbehavior.)

When a forum is too large or wide-ranging then the only posts that succeed are flame-bait and "me-too" check-ins. Posters come to recognize that if it isn't flammable it will not be seen and post accordingly.

DU really could use a General Discussion: Politics (in ADDITION to GDP) where people can talk about politics without every nuance of discussion boiling down to a vote in an imaginary binary referendum on President Obama, or--worse yet--a vote on the merits of cliques dedicated to the two sides of that proposition.

In the most literal sense, the Presidency (ostensible topic of this forum) is not the entirety of politics.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 05:50 PM
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1. You make good points
I often wonder why posts on Congressional activities or more general political topics (and goddess forbid, Sarah Palin) are included in a forum supposedly devoted to a discussion of the "Presidency."

I think the easiest fix would be to rename it simply GD: Politics. I'm not so sure we should have a "presidency" forum at all ... unless we want to also have a "Senate" forum, a "House" forum, and a "Democratic Politics" and "Republican Politics" forum all separated out. I think the very rubric of a Presidency forum suggests the president is at once King and magician, powerful over all, and that the Senate and House and political parties have no roles to play whatsoever in the workings of the country or the making of legislation.

But I share your frustration
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 05:54 PM
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2. I think Presidency is a sensible thing
There are a lot of people interested in stuff about Obama, specifically.

He is, after all, a Democratic President!

There is no such thing as square footage on the internet... no reason for either/or.

This forum was GD:Politics back before we had a President. Now we have a President so he has a forum... cool.

But we should get GD:Politics back also.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:06 PM
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3. I don't see "Presidency" vs. general "Politics" as being balanced
I'm fine with having a forum on the Presidency. But then we should not lump everything else under the sun into "Politics." Again, it's because it gives people a warped sense of the power of the presidency. There are three branches of government: Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. Why don't the other two branches get any forums?

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