the teabagger solution: don't abandon/destroy your party... TAKE IT OVER!!!!

[RepublicanElephant]

A Third Party?

For quite some time now, I have been very concerned over the thought of the establishment of a third party. I as much as anyone want a change, definitely not the change (transformation) we are seeing, but real in Washington. I am a Tea Party Patriot, who loves and supports the movement, just as I've loved the America I have grown up in. Obama and this current administration must go! This has been my dilemma, as it is always said "To vote for a third party candidate, is to throw your vote away". My dilemma, that a third party would split the vote with the G.O.P., thus opening the door to another four years of this horror. I look back at N.Y. district 23, we ran our candidate, thank God, but we didn't win. The G.O.P. nominated some lame candidate, who was a real joke. Proof of that, was giving their support to the Democrat when they pulled out of the race. Perhaps if the G.O.P. had gotten on board with Hoffman sooner, he just might have done better. As Hoffman said "I'm no rock star", which we already have one in Washington now, one too many at that!

Then it dawned on me afew weeks ago, we don't need a third party. What we need to do is to reform the G.O.P.. Why not? ?? WE can do with the G.O.P. the very same thing the Progressive/Commies have done with the Democratic Party.

As Norman Mattoon Thomas, a socialist, pacifist, six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America, said in a 1944 speach "I no longer need to run as the prssidential candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform".

If we (Tea Party Patriots), are large enough, and organized enough, to elect candidates on a national level, we should then have no problem to win in the G.O.P. primaries.

What we need to do:

(1) We join the G.O.P., ( so we may vote in the primary elections)

(2) We find our Champions of the Constitution, and enter them in the primary

(3) We work for getting our candidates elected.

As I said, if we can't win a primary, we can't win a national election. And when we do win in the G.O.P. primary, we also win the backing, support and available monies of the G.O.P..

How important is a name? weather it's the G.O.P.. or the P.O.P. (Party of Patriots). Winning is important, second place is losing.

We need to reach every God fearing, American loving, Flag waving Patriot across this Great Country, to join the Movement to Save AMERICA !!

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yes they can... and so can we!

[Clio the Leo]

1. Good .... let the GOP move as far right as they possibly can....

.... we'll gladly take the middle.

Moving the party to the extreme .... regardless of direction .... is never the way to win elections. Look at how well it worked in NY-23. (heh)

[Armstead]

2. If only the Democratic Party would move to the middle -- from the right

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

3. "Goodbye, baseball!"

[leveymg]

4. That strategy won't work for the Dems in 2010. Look at the VA Governor's race.

The GOP has done one thing right - keeping their activist base intact, and in the VA Governor's race they ran a hard-right candidate that kept the baggers mobilized. They won 60/40, a modern record, because Democratic activists did not turn out the vote for Craig Deeds, a rural conservative Blue Dog who was so far to the right that he stated that if elected he would opt out of HCR if it contained a public option.

Progressive activists already pretty much make up the base of the Dem Party, but the problem is that once elected most of our candidates get trapped in the corporate campaign money cycle and end up as Blue Dogs. The problem is most acute in the Senate.

[RepublicanElephant]

5. deeds shouldn't have been the dem candidate.

progressives activists should have seen to that.

[leveymg]

6. Not like we didn't work for Brian Moran. Problem wasn't just Deeds - it was the Senate Finance Comm

that did in the party activists this time. Obama's unwillingness or failure to get a Public Option in HCR through the Senate is a terrible blow. We knew that Obama and the Party regulars aren't as progressive as we would like, but we still feel we got a "bait and switch" and have been betrayed. Many of us are about as discouraged as possibly can be. There's nothing in the process, as it exists today, for us. No pay back to be seen in policy gains.

[RepublicanElephant]

7. i'm discouraged too.

but damn if we let the gop take back washington and have to re-live bush/cheney, but this time with romney/palin or worse!

sometimes, politics has to be about STOPPING things.

[leveymg]

9. That's what I've been telling myself for decades.

That rallying call gets a bit old.

[Clio the Leo]

10. McDonnell ran as a moderate....

.... and that's all elections come down to, a battle for independants. The independant voters who went for McDonnell by a 2-1 margain certainly didn't do so because he was more progressive than Deeds was.

http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/wb/229731

With the number of independants growing each year, if EITHER party selects a candidate that campaigns from the outer edge, they're going to lose.

[leveymg]

11. Pie. You don't know, because you're not here.

You're also wrong, in the larger sense, just as the Party triangulators have been for too many losing election cycles.

[southernyankeebelle]

8. So you think a President Palin is the solution? We had 8 yrs of Bush

you said nothing while he sat in government and ruined this country. He was joking once but he was serious when he said he would have been happy if this country would have been a dictationship as long as he was the dictator. You said nothing. Than he said at a fund raisers of millionaires. He was with his base the haves and the have mores. Everyone laughed. Yet you said nothing. What has Obama done. You hate him for what? He didn't bring the country to its knees. All he has tried to do is bring the country together and you teabaggers are nothing but a bunch of racist. Your party bought the biggest deficits. Your leader Reagan deregulated the country and now we see the outcome from that. He left office with a big deficit. You republicans spend our money like a french whore and the blame the democratic party. Your OK with starting wars and war spending andyour ok with corporate welfare. But godforbid if you want to help the working poor in this country. I hope your party rots in hell where your party deserves to go. When republicans start praying for a senator to die because they are worried of health care reform than there is something wrong with your party. May the teabag party and the republican party die for the sake of the country. I pray that a true republican party raises again to be an honest broker to move the country forward. Shame for Palin teabaggers for bringing the country down. They will not win because they don't want to reunite. They hate the democratic party and our president more than they love our country. They don't want to find solutions. They bring only hate to the table.