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IDemo
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:29 AM Original message |
The Tiny House Movement, and the Upside to Downsizing the American Dream |
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Lucinda
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. Oddly enough I was just at all three links last night |
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. I need a little more space than something smaller than some jail cells I've been in. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It's not so bad, you can open the door and leave if you want... |
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pipi_k
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. That's true, but... |
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IDemo
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
4. These would be a perfect fit for me (if it were just me, that is) |
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leveymg
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. Cute trailer, but shouldn't be considered an acceptable primary residence anymore than these: |
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IDemo
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I think you'll find that most who embrace these are doing so by choice |
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hobbit709
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. My books take up more space than that. |
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leveymg
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Exactly. |
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IDemo
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Ridiculous |
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leveymg
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Not for the the millions of us facing involuntary "downsizing" - not just a lifestyle choice. |
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IDemo
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Your statement - |
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leveymg
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Really? Read "Mortgage Default is a Patriotic Duty" - I didn't make this up. |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
67. 1+! . . . . |
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MineralMan
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. I'm moving my library onto a Kindle. |
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pipi_k
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. My book collection not as huge as yours... |
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MineralMan
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. Thanks for the link. |
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pipi_k
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Hee hee... |
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MineralMan
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Nice list! |
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Odin2005
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. ACK, stay away from "The Coming Global Superstorm", it's complete Art Bell BS! |
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Odin2005
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
75. what happens when your Kindle is damaged and you loose all your e-books? |
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Dappleganger
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #75 |
116. Oh my, that would be awful! |
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Honeycombe8
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
120. You will lose them eventually, in Kindle, is what I read. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
61. Hear hear! (on the book question). That little thing wouldn't even hold half my books. |
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Cleita
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
72. I had a really hard time giving up my books too, but |
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leveymg
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. If by choice, and back to the land, it's fine. But, a trailer is not acceptable as the "new normal" |
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baldguy
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. And what of the millions of people who've chosen to live in mobile homes? |
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leveymg
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Guess it beats a tent or a cave. |
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wickerwoman
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
78. It's not a conspiracy of the economic and cultural elites... |
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leveymg
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
98. There were those who said the planetary ecosystem would collapse at 4 billion. But, the "green |
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wickerwoman
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Sorry but that's a false choice. |
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leveymg
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Sun Jan-02-11 07:23 AM Response to Reply #99 |
111. I agree with some of that, but I think you overestimate scarcity and underestimate human ingenuity |
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wickerwoman
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #111 |
123. I still think you need to consider the global context. |
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Odin2005
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #111 |
126. Great post! |
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #99 |
114. You nailed it when you said the middle class is part of the global elite. |
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Dappleganger
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
95. There are thousands of people who have lived in trailers for years |
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5X
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
6. I had this idea before the katrina cottages |
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NNN0LHI
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
7. Won't work for me |
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BrklynLiberal
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
8. there are some amazing sites and amazing ideas along this line.. |
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otohara
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. Cute House |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
85. That looks like an expensive accessory. nt |
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Hannah Bell
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
104. That is a playhouse for a rich person. She doesn't live there. |
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randr
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. The tiny house movement only reflects what it is that has us in this mess |
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cali
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. sure, for people in cities and the suburbs. Not for the millions of us in rural areas. |
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randr
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Same here |
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leveymg
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. There is a green alternative to living in trailers or housing towers and riding mass transit. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. Actually TinyHouse has plans for small apartment complexes. Or |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. excellent points, hmmmmmm . . . |
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cali
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
11. I'm all for a reassessment of what the American dream is |
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IDemo
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The same is said on virtually every electric car thread |
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cali
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. no, it's not the same. It's simply not workable for the vast majority |
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IDemo
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. I lived in a ~500 sq. ft. house for several years |
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cali
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. tiny houses are NOT the same as small houses. |
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IDemo
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
115. Labels aside, it's just a matter of scale, isn't it? |
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MineralMan
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I grew up in an 800 sq. ft. house. |
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lumberjack_jeff
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
57. I'm beginning to think that these, like the Prius, are just a different kind of ostentation. n/t |
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Agent William
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
87. I think you're right |
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Hannah Bell
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:51 AM Response to Reply #57 |
105. if you look at the prices, they sure are. i can't imagine who would pay those prices. |
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Skittles
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
100. small is fine; tiny is ridiculous |
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eridani
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:44 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Pushing the envelope is a good thing--it helps everyone think about possibilities |
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FreakinDJ
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
12. I did downsize at the begining of the Mortgage Crisis |
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TommyO
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
15. Some of Tumbleweed's small house plans are very nice |
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mainer
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
17. Cute but VERY expensive for the square footage |
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ProdigalJunkMail
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. incredibly expensive... n/t |
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pipi_k
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
22. Very cute, but another group they're not suitable for.... |
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mwooldri
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
23. Each to their needs... but we don't all need McMansions. |
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MineralMan
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
25. I love tiny houses. |
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seabeyond
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
29. i could live that easily, alone. but i need a bathroom and kitchen. |
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TBF
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
38. Unrec - why should the rest of us live in closets while billionaires have multiple mansions? nt |
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timo
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. dont be hater |
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TBF
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Al says as he collects his dividends from Occidental ... |
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timo
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. ohhh, i was teasing you |
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TBF
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. I know - no problem - and I love being able to expose Al Gore's hypocracy whenever possible. nt |
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. You don't have to. It's a choice. Nobody's making you "live in a closet." |
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. It's a p.r. campaign to have us embrace the attacks on our living standards. Less is better. |
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Dappleganger
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
96. I don't want their mansions. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
47. 39K for a 65 SQFT "house"? |
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pipi_k
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Sort of outrageous... |
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mainer
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. It's for well-off people who want to think themselves green |
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Odin2005
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
77. Yup, scam for yuppies that need an indulgence for their wastefulness. |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
82. The trailers are a big part of it and I imagine there are zoning issues for permanent siting. nt |
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
48. Less and smaller is better. That's what the rich tell us as they attack our living standards |
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TBF
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. And build bigger homes for themselves. +1 nt |
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Better Believe It
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Sat Jan-01-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Exactly |
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Better Believe It
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. The "tiny house movement"? How about the "the tent cities movement"? |
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mia
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Sat Jan-01-11 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
51. Yahoo group - small house society online |
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Lorien
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
62. I can't believe that people are attacking the OP or those who CHOOSE to live small |
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Odin2005
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
79. I think a 900 sq.ft. house is just fine, it's the tiny hovels I don't like |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
83. Thanks Lorien! Yeah, what's up with all of that? And THAT's what passes for "revolutionary"????? |
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Hannah Bell
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Sun Jan-02-11 06:01 AM Response to Reply #62 |
106. i live in a shared house smaller than your moms. & i think tiny expensive houses |
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Skittles
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Sun Jan-02-11 06:02 AM Response to Reply #62 |
107. hey, I live in a 610 ft apt |
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TBF
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #62 |
112. Living small by CHOICE is not a bad thing, but how watching |
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Dappleganger
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #62 |
117. I completely agree. |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
63. Very cool! But they need links to Home Down-sizing consultants, blogs & work-groups. |
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
64. A grown man living in a space like that is going to make it stink. |
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dionysus
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Sat Jan-01-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
66. i couldn't fit my drum set and guitars into one of those. but they are cool. |
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Cleita
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
68. My house on wheels is a little larger but what's |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. A VERY salient point: WHERE is much more of a big deal with a house of this size. nt |
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
70. This is what we call a small home. 15 sq ft for US$200 a month |
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Cleita
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. As awful as that looks, it's still better than a concrete sidewalk. n/t |
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Prometheus Bound
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
92. Apparently most of those guys prefer the sidewalk in HK. |
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Odin2005
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
73. Un-rec. Faux-Green used as a tool for Class Warfare. |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. What is revolutionary about just coveting what others have? Wouldn't real freedom imply more options |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. BTW, the manufacturers are making at least a passing attempt at being green. Could probably be |
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #73 |
88. How is refusing to live in a small house going to prevent rich people |
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Codeine
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #73 |
124. +1 |
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Agent William
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
74. I'd do it! |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. People could create co-operative communities out of them around shared alternative energy technologi |
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Agent William
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. OK, fair point. |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Various types of professional relationships would help, but location would perhaps be the prime |
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patrice
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Sat Jan-01-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
86. and/or around shared business resources. nt |
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Kaleva
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
89. $32k for 208 sq. ft.? |
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Cleita
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Sat Jan-01-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. My house was only $26,000, but that was ten years ago. |
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lumberjack_jeff
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Sat Jan-01-11 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
94. If it's got axles anyway... |
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Fumesucker
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Sun Jan-02-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #94 |
110. That's pretty much what I'm doing.. |
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lumberjack_jeff
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #110 |
119. Good score. |
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Dappleganger
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #110 |
121. That's great! |
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Fumesucker
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Sun Jan-02-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. I have electric and water (from a well), am hooked into the septic system.. |
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Dappleganger
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Sun Jan-02-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #94 |
118. Love those! |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
97. Reductio ad absurdum |
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devils chaplain
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
101. Neat... |
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Vickers
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Sat Jan-01-11 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
102. I'm not even sure if I could fit all of my guitars and amps in there. |
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Hannah Bell
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Sun Jan-02-11 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
108. These houses aren't green at all; they're being constructed from new materials. |
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IDemo
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #108 |
113. Misanthropes? Project much? |
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Hannah Bell
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #113 |
127. Of course they use less materials than a standard house, being as they're |
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Violet_Crumble
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Sun Jan-02-11 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
109. But my extensive wardrobe of clothes and shoes aren't Tiny! |
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Codeine
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
125. My bass amp is probably bigger than the whole house. nt |
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