In The Name Of Justice

[BanzaiBonnie]

Today, there are people around the world who are celebrating the demise of Osama Bin Laden. But today I mourn. Not for the death of Bin Laden, but for the heart of America.

I will not celebrate any murder, even if it’s in the name of justice. Neither will I mourn his death. He is stopped from personally planning and terrorizing people around the world. None of us want to ever experience another 9/11 event.

I find only sorrow in the practice of people using violence to get what they want. But as someone who practices Nonviolent Communication, that doesn’t mean I am passive. It’s likely that a lot of people I know, would be surprised that I know how to handle a rifle. But to use that would be my very last choice. And even then, I know I would pay an extreme personal price for taking the life of another. I would use a weapon for protection only if there was no other way.

But for many people, that’s their first choice. I’m right, you’re wrong. You’re dead. I have a bigger stick, a bigger, more powerful gun or weapon. Unless we learn a different way, a way to be at peace with one another and support everyone’s needs being met, this just leads to ever escalating power plays.

More at my blog:

http://edgeofthevillage.wordpress.com/

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Osama bin Laden didn't bother with nonviolent communication.

And I am not even slightly sorry that murderous bastard is dead.

[Myrina]

4. Then that makes you just as callous as he was.

n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. I should be *sorry* for the death of a mass murderer?

Call me callous, then, because I'm not sorry at all. I'm not out dancing in the street waving a flag, but I'm not shedding any tears for that evil SOB.

[BanzaiBonnie]

5. And that's fine. What that criminal did

was beyond horrors.

I'm not saying that I'm right, you're wrong. You are right where you are in feeling what you do.

This is my expression of how I feel.

[Avalux]

2. I cannot celebrate Osama's death either. What I can do.....

acknowledge that a truly evil man has exited the physical plane, perhaps making the world a little brighter. I am thankful for the closure, especially for those who were directly affected by loss related to 9/11.

I can say good riddance, and hope from this point forward, we can all try to do better, and treat our fellow humans as worthy of life. Something Osama Bin Laden never did.

[Blue Owl]

3. The end of Bin Laden is not the end of injustice

That's for sure.

[meegbear]

6. They say one should only speak good of the dead ...

He's dead. Good.

[BanzaiBonnie]

7. And I'm fine with that.

[Jefferson23]

8. I appreciate your concerns, honestly. Yet, I am one who is more than satisfied that he is dead.

It is a terrible thing to feel there is a sense of justice without a trial, I acknowledge that truth about myself.

I do hope his death gives closure for those he pained personally and I imagine some of those people
feel as you do too.

[BanzaiBonnie]

11. I like the way you put it

I am satisfied he is dead. I hoped that was clear from my blog (which is a long one) that I am satisfied he won't be inflicting any more pain on others.

I don't know if anyone is going to read the rest of the blog. I was just warming up. Perhaps I should have displayed the whole thing.

[Jefferson23]

14. I read it, and I think many feel as you do. Although there are a variety of reactions here, it's

good to read each others thoughts and feelings about it, I think. We all experienced a terrible shock that day
and we ( especially those here) myself included, realize the nightmare that followed. All the incompetence,
two useless wars we ended up with..the Patriot Act..you know the score as well as I do.

Yet, he was the reason behind the pain, Americans even had to endure listening to Bush dismiss bin Laden
and refer to him as irrelevant. We knew it was bullshit and he said it b/c he couldn't get him but all
of that never changed for me the fact that bin Laden was out there..free.


It's done now, I wish it all could have been different, but that doesn't change my satisfaction that he
is dead.

I read your OP, I hope others do too. Thanks for posting.

[Taverner]

10. I do agree the victory dances are ghoulish at best

Downright psychopathic at worst.

However, I do not shed a tear for that rich fuck.

Like all rich fucks, he didn't give a damn about anyone but himself.

Like all rich fucks, he didn't do the fighting, he had the poor to do it for him.

Like all rich fucks, he claimed he was something greater than a mere human.

Like all rich fucks, he wasn't.

Let me tell you about the obscenely rich: many of them have to take great steps to make it to human. They are raised thinking they are gods among men, the 'titans of industry' or 'masters of the universe' that fanboys and fangirls like Ayn Rand whisper in their ears.

Fuck the rich. Fuck Bin Laden.

I'm glad the son of a bitch is dead.

I would have liked him to be taken alive, however. Dog only knows what he could have given our intelligence community. Like most rich folks, he probably did not have a high tolerance for pain, and we probably wouldn't have even had to lift a finger.

Leave him in a cell 23 hours, with 1 hour to walk around the yard by himself. Take away any and all books, no TV, etc.

He'd crack like an egg.

[BanzaiBonnie]

12. I understand the relief and the celebration

that some are experiencing. It's more relief for me. I'm not going to say anyone is wrong in how they express themselves. I don't know there is a "correct" way to go through this experience. It's not my business to tell anyone they are wrong. I only know for myself.

It is my intention that someday, most of us will be able to live together in peace. Here's a little more of my blog:

Would it benefit us to do some more listening? What a difference it made in those students when they were listened to and when they were a part of the solution.
Would it diminish the United States to listen before people become so hopeless that they become suicide bombers? Would it hurt us to show our heart and work together for solutions? Could we show that we understand that there are people around the world in dire pain? Can we understand that the policies of top down governments squash the needs of some, in order to fulfill the needs of a chosen few?

While we can feel safe from one person who was waging war on us, there are others who will follow Bin Laden. It might be well to ask what it is they are trying to accomplish. The sort of havoc these small numbers of people wreck, must be some sort of strategy to fill a need. What might their need be? And I fully understand that not everyone is willing to sit together and talk solutions. But might there be someone who is within a particular community who would be open to this approach? Even when we can’t talk together, we can guess what their issues might be. That’s a start.

I believe in Democracy, but it cannot be forced on anyone. We know you can’t make someone do something they don’t want to. Unless it’s by threat or force. Even if you do, you will pay for it. We paid a terrible price in SE Asia. And we’ve paid a terrible price in Iraq, Afghanistan, and on our own soil.

The question I have now is not, are we listening? It’s… are we willing to listen?



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[Taverner]

13. It IS high time Americans listened for a change nt