About "the glorification of killing someone"..it isn't just someone.

[Stuart G]

I am not sure if the elation is about someone's death, but rather, about evil in one small way, being destroyed. Let us assume that it is pure evil to destroy 3000 people with no warning just cause they are there and in a particular country at a particular time.

If one person did indeed plan and cary out that evil act, so if he/she is in turn destroyed, and we feel good for a moment that this person is no longer a threat, is it correct to be happy that that person is gone? I feel ok with that.

Let us imagine for a while, that Hitler was assisnated sometime in mid 42, after thousands were killed in London, millions in the old Soviet Union. One of the Generals takes over and ends that insanity. Or make up your own senario. Occasionally evil loses, and no matter how that happens, and what that results in, those who are victims of that evil, have a right for a moment of joy.

[Deep13]

1. Yeah, I reject the smug idea that every person is equally valuable.

I can't say that I'm overjoyed that bin Laden is dead, but I sure don't mind knowing it.

[GeorgeGist]

14. Gee ...

I thought it was self-evident. :snark:

[gratuitous]

2. It's a silly notion, I know

But I was rather interested in seeing the proof of the allegations of wrongdoing against Osama bin Laden. I think it's called "evidence," which is a funny-looking word. But now that I've been thoroughly schooled in the Jon Kyl explanation of the Constitution (not intended to be taken as a factual statement), I'm working on giving up my childish ways.

[Bragi]

3. Think about the Nuremberg trials

At the end of WW2, evil wasn't summarily executed.

Instead, evil met justice, and justice won.

Unfortunately, that isn't close to what happened here.

[Drale]

4. Osama Bin Laden would never ever have been taken alive

There was no possible scenario were that was going to happen.

[Ian David]

7. Depends how resistant he was to being tasered. n/t

[texshelters]

11. True and true, but why isn't

Bradley Manning getting a trial, or the other detainees from 9/11?

Whether Bin Laden died or not, terrorism will continue. The positive side affect is a "up yours" to all the real Obama haters (not his liberal critics) on the racist right.

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[cottonseed]

6. Yes, what happened here was that Bin Laden refused to surrender and was shot in the face.

It happened to a LOT of people in WW2 too...

[Stuart G]

8. Yes, you are correct, evil wasn't summarily "exeucted" in Nuremberg

That was a climate of peace. We could have trials then.
It was over.

A trial of OBL would have increased world tension.
Maybe the trail itself would have triggered more killing.
Made things worse, not better.

I am not a war person, but,
.. in the middle of war, one soldier does not have a trial with another, when he kills him. It is over.

That is why war is to be avoided at all costs.
OBL set the terms and the conditions of the game.
He had killed in other places too.
If it were simple, and easy....
We wouldn't be having this conversation.

[davepc]

10. It's easy to have a trial when the bad guys unconditionally surrender

[Ian David]

5. I don't care that he's dead.I'm just glad President Obama succeeded where pResident Bush failed. n/t

[texshelters]

9. It's sad to celebrate death, but I don't mourn Bin Laden either

"When many are killed in battle, it is no time for celebration
treat you victory like a funeral."

Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[Warren Stupidity]

12. I reject the culture that celebrates death.

I celebrate life.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. Goody for you.

I am obviously an inferior and unenlightened being, but I'm not even slightly sorry OBL is dead.