Leading Democrats Step Out on Limb, Call for Withdrawal in Afghanistan - FDL

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Leading Democrats Step Out on Limb, Call for Withdrawal in Afghanistan - FDL

Leading Democrats Step Out on Limb, Call for Withdrawal in Afghanistan
By: David Dayen - FDL
Monday May 2, 2011 1:00 pm

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There has been more momentum toward the bin Laden death leading to an exit from our occupation of Afghanistan than I expected. I expected more hesitancy from typically cautious Democrats around this point. But here�s Barney Frank making an argument:

Explaining his decision to vote for the Afghanistan war in 2001, Frank said, �We went there to get Osama bin Laden. And we have now gotten Osama bin Laden. � So yes, I think this does strengthen the case .� <...>

�Look, part of the argument against this reduction is that it was reputational, for staying in Afghanistan. �We can�t look like America was driven out.� �We can�t go away with our tail between our legs.� All of those metaphors. Well, we just killed Osama bin Laden, and I think that takes a lot of the pressure away � a lot of the punch away from the argument that �oh, it will look like we walked away.��

And more surprising to me, Senate Armed Services Committee Chair Carl Levin made the argument as well:

In Levin�s own words, �Afghans now are in an even better position to take responsibility, because whatever direction is coming from Pakistan, from that safe haven, no longer has the guidance, whatever strength bin Laden�s presence or direction could give to it.

�That�s now weakened. So the potential of the Afghan army and police to take responsibility is greater now and the fear that, gee whiz can they do it on their own, is something which now is of lesser concern, because the direction, the strength, the leadership of bin Laden and al Qaeda from that safe haven in Pakistan is severely weakened, and that should strengthen the hand of the Afghan security forces�.

�I don�t think there was day-to-day control at all. What there was was this idea that somehow or other that the messages that come from across the border to die for the cause have that mystique behind those messages, when they�re given to those young people who are committing suicide. That�s gone. Now, there�ll be a substitute mystique which will be attempted and I don�t want to be naive at all about the fact that there may be � probably will be � an increase in suicide bombers as a kind of retaliation�but in terms of there being any more there in some sense guiding � a guiding hand � is now gone. It won�t be long before that settles in.�

This is pretty brazen on the part of typically more circumspect lawmakers. But they�re both talking about the same thing: all of the weird protocols and mythologies that accompanied bin Laden are really gone now. You strip that away and you�re left with nothing but a nation-building experiment in a nation that doesn�t really welcome our help to the same degree anymore.

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More: http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/05/02/leading-democrats-step-out-on-limb-call-for-withdrawal-in-afghanistan/

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