Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Republicans say torture led U.S. to bin Laden. Facts say otherwise.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:15 PM
Original message
Republicans say torture led U.S. to bin Laden. Facts say otherwise.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/02/972387/-Republicans-say-torture-led-US-to-bin-Laden-Facts-say-otherwise

You could see this one coming a mile off. Here's Dick Cheney on Fox News: "I would assume the enhanced interrogation program we put in place produced some of the results that led to bin Laden's ultimate capture.... We need to keep in place those policies that made it possible for us to succeed in this case."

Here's an AP story reiterating the same.
Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden's most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed's successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.
Or how about the Heritage Foundation screaming "Detainee Interrogations: Key to Killing Osama bin Laden": "This lead was developed during the Bush Administration, most likely from al-Qaeda associates picked up and transferred to Guantanamo and subject to interrogations that critics have repeatedly deemed to be pointless in terms of intelligence value. Whether these detainees remain at Guantanamo is an open question." See, if Bush and Cheney hadn't been man enough to torture people, we never would have found bin Laden. Nine years later.

There's plenty more where that came from:

more
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:16 PM
Response to Original message
1. We are living in a seriously messed up time in US history
when we are actually arguing the MERITS of torture.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
2. Almost right away didn't the fact that
The CIA got the info from a contact inside Pakistan come out? Just more Republican bullshit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
3. It doesn't matter even if they did get info from torture.
Torture is wrong. Whether or not it's productive is beside the point.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. The party of "morality" is arguing that the end justifies the means
They're arguing that there are no things that are immoral no matter how much good they bring about.

They are seriously fucked up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. PRECISELY.
It's hard to believe this nation is even having such a debate. It makes me weep.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:57 PM
Response to Original message
6. I have to wonder why the RepubliCons are reviving this bit of controversy.
It isn't a winning issue for them. It really isn't. So I'm left thinking that they must have a specific piece of intelligence in mind when they say this.

Which leads me to wonder, what took so long then?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:38 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC