OSAMA died in a "Flop House" and MSM calls it a "Mansion Compound?"

[KoKo]

Wonkette had it correct... The place is a mess...so either Osama was an "austerity fanatic" or the MSM's Reporting of "Millions of Dollar Mansion Compound" reporting is wrong.

Everyone here has probably seen the ABC Video of this disgusting place...where Obama's "water bed" has blood all over.

What I want to know was this a "step up from the Cave" for this guy? :wtf: is this place...it's falling apart! I can't imagine he stayed there much...so maybe it's a good thing that our intelligence targeted him. This was probably a place he spent little time in and that's why it took so long to track him down here. The Bin Laden Family was used to LUXURY...Osama wouldn't have seemed to be the type to spend much time in this "dive."

Anyone else think that Osama didn't spend much time in this hell hole and that's why it was so hard for us to catch him all these years?

Link to the VIDEO..

http://wonkette.com/444828/osama-bin-laden-had-an-ugly-mansion-and-now-it-is-covered-in-blood

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Obama's waterbed?

:wtf:

[KoKo]

7. Yeah...look at the video...it's a waterbed or a "large futon" has the pump next to the bed...

Place is a dump for such a high profile person to live in...

[DFab420]

15. You still aren't picking up on it huh

OBama's waterbed????!!

[KoKo]

30. Osama's Waterbed...Typos that seems common these days.

:blush:

[DFab420]

43. It's the damn auto correct

Took it forever to stop spelling Obama as Osama and now it's all backwards

[tekisui]

2. Inflation in Pakistan must be crazy for that dump to be considered a

million dollar mansion. It also seems to be kind of in the middle of nowhere.

[pnwmom]

10. It's in the middle of an expensive neighborhood of military bigwigs,

near a military academy. And it is a very large piece of property -- much bigger than any other homes in the area.

[DFab420]

3. "Flop House"? "Obama's waterbed"

:WTF:

Maybe you should turn on Lawrence right now, he is breaking it down for you right now...

[KoKo]

8. Is "Lawrence" (whover he is) shoing the Google Map and photos of what it really looks like?

:shrug:

[DFab420]

12. haha whoever he is

Lawrence O'donnell, sorry I forget not everyone watches the talking heads. These photos here?





http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/05/google-maps-updated-with-location-of-osama-bin-ladens-compound-in-abbottabad-pakistan.html

[KoKo]

31. That photo alone ENLARGED shows a "Flop House" Awnings falling down, Garbage...old

decrepit buildings...weird stuff and that Huge Wall..7 feet Thick the media talked about ...look at that.. Covered in Red netting and looks like it wouldn't stop a Chevy Suburban with a "snow plow attached" from breaking through.

That place is a falling down, unkempt DUMP and they say it was built in 2005? AYYYYY! Crap Construction or they "Remodeled the First Dump" :eyes:

[DFab420]

47. I thought flop house meant

"whore house"

If you just mean he was hiding in a POS then yea, he was hiding in a POS..


Does Flop House not mean Whore house?

[Codeine]

4. Some people are just fucking slobs.

As common in any other culture and at every income level as it is anywhere else.

[Canuckistanian]

5. This place was even seedier that the one Hussein was found in

Or Hussein's sons. But from the early reports, it sounded like an exclusive hotel compound or luxury condos.

[quinnox]

6. that was no flop house

It was a huge compound with buildings. It was built not for luxury but for survival as a safe house, that is why it appears like it does. Osama wasn't into luxury I don't think anyway, he was used to living it rough. Compared to a cave, that place is a palace!

[KoKo]

11. I dunno where you live...but where I live that falling apart place isn't a "Mansion."

And if it was built in 2005...they must have had the shit builders we in the US had at that time at the "top" of the Bubble when they were using crappiest building materials. Just Saying...the place is a dump.

[quinnox]

19. you get all that from that video?

It is a short little video showing one room in the place, maybe there were other areas that were nicer. It was a huge compound with buildings all strung together, maybe you aren't appreciating the size of the place.

And like I said, the dude was used to rough living, maybe he disdained luxury living as a sin or somethin', hell if I know.

[KoKo]

33. The Outside of the Falling Apart Dump sort of compares with the Osama bin Dead Room, though.

[quinnox]

35. You can't expect Western standards in that place

Come on, he was trying to hide, not stand out. If the place had been ultra luxurious people would have wondered who lived there and watched closer. As it was, even as modest as it was, it still got noticed and proved to be his downfall.

[KoKo]

46. Good Point...except that "Abbotabad" area of Pakistan is a Resort for folks

who want fresh mountain air and change of scenery. Founded by a British General in the 1860's and he wrote a poem that's been immortalized on a plaque outside the city.

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View of Abbottabad, 1860s

Abbottabad (Urdu: ایبٹ آباد Ābṭābād; pronounced <ˈaːbʈaːbaːd̪>) is a city located in the Hazara region of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, in Pakistan. The city is situated in the Orash Valley, 50 kilometres (31 mi) northeast of Islamabad and 150 kilometres (93 mi) east of Peshawar at an altitude of 4,120 feet (1,260 m) and is the capital of the Abbottabad District. The city is well-known throughout Pakistan for its pleasant weather, high-standard educational institutions and military establishments. It remains a major hub for tourism of regions in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Gilgit-Baltistan and Azad Kashmir in the summer.
History

The town of Abbottabad in British India was the headquarters of the then Hazara district, and was named after Major James Abbott who founded the town and district in January 1853 after the annexation of the Punjab. He remained the first Deputy Commissioner of the Hazara district between 1849 until April 1853. Major Abbott is noted for having written a poem titled "Abbottabad", before he went back to Britain, in which he wrote of his fondness for the town and his sadness at having to leave it. Abbottabad became and is still an important military cantonment and sanatorium, being the headquarters of a brigade in the Second Division of the Northern Army Corps.<3> The garrison consisted of four battalions of native infantry (Gurkhas and Frontier Force) and four native mountain batteries.<4>

In 1901 the population of the town and cantonment was 7,764<3> and the income averaged around Rs. 14,900. This increased to Rs. 22,300 in 1903, chiefly derived from octroi. During this time chief public institutions were built such as the Albert Victor unaided Anglo-Vernacular High School, the Municipal Anglo-Vernacular High School and the Government dispensary.<4> In 1911 the population had risen to 11,506 and the town also contained four battalions of Gurkhas.<5>

In June 1948, the British Red Cross opened a hospital in Abbottabad to deal with thousands of patients who were being brought in from the Kashmir fighting areas.<6> On October 8, 2005 Abbottabad was devastated by the Kashmir earthquake. Although most of Abbottabad survived, many old buildings were destroyed or damaged.<7>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbottabad

[pnwmom]

9. A "mansion compound" can be a mess -- no contradiction there.

Just because the property was very large and expensively built doesn't mean the occupants were living there in lavish style.

OTOH, I haven't read anything indicating that he was living there for very long. I read that he was thought to have moved frequently and the US only became aware of him being there in August.

OTOH, I don't think the Bush administration was trying very hard to get Bin Laden once they attacked Iraq. Obama really deserves the credit for stepping up the pressure on this.

[KoKo]

20. Here's the Photo...it's hardly a Million Dollar Mansion ..in Pakistan ...

[pnwmom]

21. That photo gives no idea of the size of the compound. n/t

[Hannah Bell]

42. most of the "compound" is unbuilt space. the actual building isn't that big.

judging by the pictures i've seen.

[riderinthestorm]

24. I agree the photo looks deceptive. He may have used hardened concrete

that's more expensive than other types. He may have installed infrared and/or other extremely expensive security items.

It looks like a fortified safe house to me. If I had to guess, I'd say it looks like it's been built to "fit into" the neighborhood construction style so it doesn't stand out (despite it's size). I wonder if the design wasn't purposeful.

[riderinthestorm]

13. It's a really large house, with a ton of security stuff that probably sucked up most of that money

While OBL was raised in luxury, he actually hasn't lived like that for decades. He truly did fight in Afghanistan, he was living in the remote regions of Waziristan, he was on the move a lot. I'm not so sure he was acclimated to luxury anymore. The actual structure of the building looks like a lot of third world "upscale" homes to me. Construction standards are pretty bad in those parts of the world.

As to the decorating, if I took a wild guess, I'd say the men ruled that household. Even more so, I'd say their decorating style was probably prioritized and a guy usually "decorates" far, far differently than any woman I know. The place looked like a messy man's house.

With regard to the sloppiness, we're probably seeing the place after the Seals took it apart. The reports indicate they took a lot of stuff which means they probably tossed EVERYTHING in there looking for important docs, laptops, maps etc.

[FarLeftFist]

14. Well....Compared to the surrounding houses in the area I guess.

Middle class house here in the states.

[sufrommich]

16. Are you surprised the hideout didn't have daily maid service

and groundskeepers? Seriously, of course it's a mess,I'm sure there was as little traffic as possible in that house.

[DFab420]

17. they were burning their own trash!

[KoKo]

22. Didn't want anyone checking garbage..and that's definitely a tip off...

But, looking at that place..I don't think folks would have stayed there too long enough to have much trash. It's more likely they had Pakistani Pizza Delivery where they'd just have to burn the boxes.

[RKP5637]

18. It really looked more like a shabby warehouse in the pics I've seen. n/t

[KoKo]

23. But, Blitzer and rest of MSM were blaring that it was a "Mansion Compound" all day

and yet the photo even they showed looked like a run down motel outside of Baltimore near the warehouse district with railroad tracks.

It took some good work by US Intelligence to fox him out...because I still think he didn't spend much time there. Probably it was a "safe house" for interim visits. So GOOD ON our INTELLIGENCE OPS!

[RKP5637]

28. Yep, exactly, good description, looked like a "run down motel outside of Baltimore near the

warehouse district with railroad tracks." My thoughts too, a "safe house." I doubt they were too concerned with interior decorating and manicured lawns. My hunch is someone called it a mansion early on and MSM just played follow along. Truly Remarkable INTELLIGENCE OPS!!!

[islandmkl]

25. well...he wasn't doing the donald trump thing there...

but to try to quantify his hiding spot...remember, this is the guy we all thought, to some extent, and if you weren't among us you forgot to inform the world what you knew, was living in a goddam cave somewhere...

yeah, 18-foot security walls...including a 7-foot wall on the terrace on the third floor...

and we have Architectural Digest criticisms...

he was an asshole, ended up like many assholes of his ilk...he deserved no more than he got...

if you wanted a trial, you should have convinced him to give himself up...

he died like he lived...and that is the final judgement...might as well have been John Dillinger...

oh wait...

[RKP5637]

34. Yeah, Trump would've had it lit in neon lights with a large flashing marque across the

front calling it "Osama's Hideaway!"

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[Distant Observer]

27. Million $ Mansion is prob part of the "Talking Points" given to MSM for propaganda purposes. As is

using "wife as human shield"

It's the psyops component of the game.

[sufrommich]

29. I really don't think they needed propaganda in this case. The

people were pretty obvious as to how they felt. It wasn't one of those moments that had to be sold to the audience.

[KoKo]

36. Well...that's exactly what I was wondering. Were they trying to say Pakistan had him living in

luxury or something? I'd have thought they would have been all excited that Osama died in such terrible squalor given that he comes from such a wealthy Saudi Family that we know he never lacked for anything...even thought he was the "black sheep" of his wealthy family.

I think it was a safe house..and he didn't spend much time there and that's why I give Obama's intelligence folks some high marks for this operation.

[wickerwoman]

32. He's the most wanted man on earth hiding in one of the poorest countries on earth.

Were you expecting a 30 foot champagne fountain in the front yard and half a dozen tennis courts? Don't you think that would have been a bit conspicuous?

And Osama may have been rich, but he spent most of the 80s fighting the Soviets from mountain caves. I'm sure he was capable of "slumming it" when he had to.

[KoKo]

38. Excuse me...I'm not the "enemy" here on this thread. I'm applauding our Intelligence for finding him

..because I think he only used this "flop house" occasionally and that's why it took so long to find him. I think he probably had the REAL MANSIONS elsewhere and traveled extensively. But, this was where he went when his folks new that we were "on his tail."

I thought it was bizarre that the Cable Media kept calling that Run Down Motel ...a MILLIONS OF DOLLAR MANSION COMPOUND. I did full caps because Blitzer in his "foghorn voice" kept "stressing that" in a loud voice along with the Chirper "day group" over at MSNBC.

[KoKo]

41. Actually where the "Mansion/Flop House" is located is in the Vacation Area of Pakistan...

and is named for a British General who founded it in the late 1860's who loved it so much he wrote a poem to it which is memorialized as you enter the town.

[On the Road]

37. My Only Question About That Building Is:

It was built in 2005?

[KoKo]

39. Yes...it looks like something from just Post WWII in dying communities all over the US...

[riderinthestorm]

40. I read in another article that the locals called it "The Mansion"

so that may be part of the confusion.

Beyond that, we're seeing pics of the exterior and interior of this place after a firefight with numerous people killed, the Navy Seals trashing it looking for evidence, and a helicopter being blown up right next to it.

I can tell you, no house is going to look "pretty" or even remotely decent after that.

[RKP5637]

44. Here are a number of pictures of it ... I don't think this is a dupe.

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=9294138184493326603&q=Osama+bin+Laden%27s+compound&hl=en&cad=src:kml_balloon&ei=4lS_TY-GEqq0zQTi0pzkDw

[JanMichael]

49. did you read the "reviews?"

some of those are a scream; thanks for the laughs!

[KoKo]

50. Yep...scanned the first few..and they capture the "romance" of it...

:D..

[RKP5637]

54. I've been laughing and laughing, they are really really good. I missed them. Thanks

for all the laughs.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[harun]

45. It was no mansion. It was a bit bigger than the places nearby, that's about it.

There are lots of pic's out there of it now, and it isn't even close to a "mansion". Typical reporting fail from our Corporate Media.

[Atman]

48. Yeah, but remember...for seven years Bush told us he was crouching in a cave.

That's no mansion, but it sure as hell isn't a cave.

[KoKo]

51. Apparently no one knows how long he's been there..according to

reports I've read over at TPM's site. Josh has a running thread linking all the articles.

[Atman]

53. Hmmm. Tweety or Larry said the compound was built in 2005.

And it was built for him. :shrug:

[Nevernose]

52. It was definitely a fixer-upper. The real value

...was probably in the land. I've also heard that the actual real estate price was 920k. It's a poor country, but there's also great wealth, too (there are palaces in Mexico, after all). It's also crowded, and land in a relatively safe and civilized portion, not to mention a vacation area, would be at a premium. Built quickly, not built for style, and not maintained, a potential palace could quickly look like Chateau Osama did.