2010: A Big Year for UFO's

[LongTomH]

Oh boy, these things just keep showing up! There's a load of articles on news.google.com under the heading: UFO SIGHTINGS 2010. Here are a few:

From AOL news: 2010: A Big Year for UFOs:

Like a bad penny that keeps showing up, UFOs have been around on a regular basis from antiquity through modern day. And as 2010 unfolded, the UFO mythology was alive and well.

Famed British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking, the pope's astronomer, a high-ranking Italian politician and even the late Winston Churchill (according to recently unearthed documents) helped keep UFOs in the news.

And sightings of unexplained flying objects came in from all over the world.

From the Examiner: Indiana motorists pull over after spotting triangle UFO:

No town name is mentioned in the public portion of the MUFON report, filed on December 27, 2010, but the reporting witness states that the object was seen while driving southbound along Cleveland Avenue.

The witness reports lights on the craft.

"It was triangular in shape with two red lights on one side and a large glowing white orb in the center," the witness stated.

The witness describes the object.

"The color of the craft was a white-grayish color. It looked like there was something on the back of it, or like the back was a square, but it was really hard to tell."

Another report from the Examiner: UFO Traffic Report: December 29, 2010 has a long list of sighting reports from the past year.

Pravda seems to think Russia is becoming a tourist site for UFOs: Southern Russia becomes attraction for aliens:

Unidentified flying objects began to appear in the sky above the city of Elista, the capital of the Kalmykia Republic (Southern Russia), in December of the outgoing year. The former head of the republic once claimed that he had personally met and communicated with extraterrestrial beings clad in yellow spacesuits. The official urged everyone not to be ashamed of speaking about the aliens in public.

n December of 2010, hundreds of Elista residents could see UFOs appearing in the sky above their heads every ten days of the month, the Nezavisimaya Gazeta wrote. The most recent sighting took place on December 22: eyewitnesses said they saw two concentric circles in the sky from 3 to 7 p.m. local time. The inner circle was rotating clockwise, and the outer one was rotating anticlockwise. Others could see a triangle object with beams of light coming from it.

Of course, these are all due to the planet Venus reflecting off some swamp gas onto a weather balloon.:rofl:

Edited to add: Now Argentina is concerned that UFO's may pose a threat to air security:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x96238

[Kaleko]

1. As usual, Americans will be the last to know

what's actually happening on that front too.

Arrogance and ignorance, that deadly combo, is set up for a spectacular fall -- that's my New Year's prediction anyway. :)

[Angry Dragon]

2. god's messengers have returned

I wonder what they will report back to her

[SpiralHawk]

3. I saw my first UFO this year

I've got Hawk eyes, and so does my darling. We saw a triangular UFO flying low and slow and super silently over downtown, just after sunset right at the end of November.

It made an impression on us both...

[Motown_Johnny]

11. over downtown what/where?

[SpiralHawk]

16. That would be telling

[DearAbby]

4. I won't believe this sheeyet until UFOs Buzz the White house

or capitol building, by Gawd


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTZ7O9cfpPQ&playnext=1&list=PL46D52741C8355015&index=30

UFOs Buzz the capitol building in 1952

[Kaleko]

5. Yeah, and I won't believe it until the authorities confirm in public

that UFOs are real.

Oh wait... they did.

UFOs Spying on Our Nukes, Airmen Claim

September 28, 2010

http://news.discovery.com/space/ufos-spying-on-our-nukes-airmen-claim.html

"While most of the incidents apparently involved mere surveillance, in a few cases, a significant number of nuclear missiles suddenly and simultaneously malfunctioned, just as USAF security policemen reported seeing disc-shaped craft hovering nearby," says Robert Hastings, author of "UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites."

[felix_numinous]

6. A cool website

for UFO buffs

http://www.openminds.tv/videos/ Enjoy!

I don't care what anyone says anymore, I was followed around by a small dinner plate size disk/silent drone thingy back in 2005, it had vapor around it and it was wobbly, for about a minute. It was pretty weird, but I know this is just some technology denied by the government. They have silent drones--that's not crazy , it's just a fact. Lots of people have seen these.

[RKP5637]

23. Thanks! n/t

[AC_Mem]

7. I look forward to the day

That UFO information is out there for public knowledge.

It will be interesting to see people who's entire belief system will be rocked by the information (and of course I'm referring to hypocritical so called "Christians" who think they are the chosen ones).

Bring it on!

Annette

[Desertrose]

8. Disclosure is happening under our noses if we open our eyes.

So many countries are ready to disclose...the US, not so much.

We should be the first, not the last.

[RKP5637]

18. Why break our new record of liking to come in last anymore. I think there's

a lot of weird sh** going on and as usual, the masses are informed with disinformation. Certainly some of the stuff is obviously military, but some of it's really off the wall.

I can't imagine (well, I can) any being so centralist and egotistical as to think earth is the only place in the entire multi-dimensional universe that has some form of life and that none have a better means of some form of travel of sorts than humans.

[Desertrose]

9. Betcha 2011 will be even bigger....

:)

[Motown_Johnny]

12. and 2012 will be insane

maybe, if we are lucky, they will burn themselves out by 2013

[Warren DeMontague]

10. The more widespread availability of CGI image and video software

might, uh, have something to do with it.

[FLPanhandle]

14. Stop being rational with your explainations.

It's obviously a government cover up. LOL

[Kaleko]

26. So you think that CGI images and video software can disable nuclear missiles -

a whole bunch of them at once - as reported at a Sept. 2010 press conference by a number of former officers entrusted with the keys to these nukes?

http://news.discovery.com/space/ufos-spying-on-our-nukes-airmen-claim.html

[LongTomH]

27. Thanks for that link!

This isn't the first time I've heard of UFOs being associated with missiles going offline; but, it adds to the mystery. Interesting that the Russians have had similar incidents.

[Kaleko]

29. If you study the most credible witness testimony a little bit,

it becomes evident that our visitors have disabled nukes all over the place, even some missiles in flight. A friend of mine was hired to transcribe secret testimony given by a very high-ranking US military official back in the 1980s. These documents were sent to the Clinton White House. Both Clintons were told that even the President would not be allowed to know what goes on in the "E.T. contact" division of the Pentagon.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. Yes, that's exactly what I think.

Because clearly there could be no other logical explanation for what 3 or 4 dudes with a "UFO Researcher" claimed before the National Press Club one afternoon.


Honestly? I'm open minded. I am. I am firmly convinced there's life elsewhere in the universe, I'm suspect there's probably other intelligent life even in our corner of the galaxy. I don't know- but I hope- that there may be some possible end-run around Einstein that would make interstellar travel a reasonable possibility for intelligent civilizations, such as, one day, our own.

But if intelligent life HAS visited this planet, there is a dearth- a real dearth- of solid evidence to back it up. Any aliens with the capability of traveling thousands of light years to visit us wouldn't need to limit their appearances to isolated tractor drivers and lonely missile silo operators, much less be hemmed in by any Earthly government conspiracy to cover up their existence. Flat out? It's like God. A lot of people claim to have direct knowledge of the existence of the phenomena, but I remain skeptical until someone shows some solid proof.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[Kaleko]

30. If the guys guarding nuclear missile sites are prone to fall for CGI imagery

and then hallucinate that the nukes were disabled for a time, after which they were suddenly functioning again after the UFOs observed by these guys left, this should be cause for grave concern as to their sanity, right? At the very least, officials in other departments should start a serious investigation into the mental state of all these military officers in Russia, Britain, the US etc. etc.

[Warren DeMontague]

38. Or, maybe Capt. Robert Salas is still trying to sell his book.

There are all sorts of explanations for why 5 guys might come before the National Press Club and make claims with zero corroborating evidence.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/27/AR2010092705099.html?sid=ST2010092705410

[Kaleko]

39. Your claim that there is zero corroborating evidence is a flat out fabrication.

Even a precursory Google search will yield a lot of corroborating information.

To smear a whistleblower for publishing their material in a book or for giving interviews and gaining a name for themselves is another trick predictably used by people who have no interest in the truth and no curiosity to find out more than what they've been told to believe by the Propaganda Ministry.


“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”
- Adolf Hitler quotes (German Chancellor, leader of the Nazi party, 1889-1945)

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“Education is dangerous - every educated person is a future enemy.”
- Hermann Goering quote (Nazi Reichsmarshall and Air Force-Chief)

[Warren DeMontague]

40. Godwin's Law. You lose.

I'm not interested in "smearing" anyone. And I can't think of anything more fascinating than waking up tomorrow to find that we'd be contacted- much less visited- by an extraterrestrial civilization.

But your argument is that the only logical explanation for 5 guys showing up to give cookies to the Washington Press Corps while claiming "UFOs are disabling our nukes" is that "UFOs are disabling our nukes". It's not. There are lots of other logical explanations, certainly some including a profit motive behind book sales. Guy has a book, guy's book is listed on amazon, but no one is supposed to talk about it?

And while we're at it .... Where's the corroborating evidence?

Salas himself didn't even see the "UFO".

[Desertrose]

35. Check out season 2 of Ancient Aliens on the History channel.

"But if intelligent life HAS visited this planet, there is a dearth- a real dearth- of solid evidence to back it up."



"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Not really, evidence is either credible or it isn't. "Extraordinary" is subjective.

[Warren DeMontague]

37. If they're really here, I'm sure I'll be convinced soon enough.

So I'm not sure why the big push to convince.

Also, while the History Channel has some interesting stuff, but it's hardly a definitive scientific authority. The shows present the views of whoever puts them together; it's not like they're peer-reviewed.


As for "extraordinary evidence": Let's put it this way; I'm not going to accept that there's a giant, all-powerful invisible man in the sky just because someone thinks a salt stain on the Eisenhower Expy looks like the Virgin Mary, and I'm not going to accept that extraterrestrials are crossing interstellar space to visit us and shut down our nuclear missiles just because some guy selling a book on UFOs says they are.

[BlueJazz]

13. I certainly believe in UFO's but not Beings from other Worlds.

[Nostradammit]

17. Have you seen this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x92192


Billions of galaxies containing billions of stars and you don't believe in beings from other worlds?

Really? When some of these galaxies are billions of years older than ours, meaning inhabitants would
have more than a billion year technological headstart?

Not criticizing you, just truly amazed that anybody would rule out the possibility.

[BlueJazz]

25. It's not that I don't completely disregard the probability. It's the idea that

We are so far from each other...plus the fact the the "Window" of fairly possible interaction is so extreme.

A species would have to be in our time frame.
Lets say that our window is from 3 million BC to 1 million AD ..4 million years.
That's somewhere around 1/3,000,000 chance that a species will be in our window....(The Working universe is about 12 billion years old)
Anything before that, the species probably would not have evolved enough for interstellar flight...after that, they would not find us interesting enough to bother with..

And then you get into the fact that we are hard to find.
Let's say WE have conquered space flight. ...Where do we go?...There's Trillions of stars out there...Which one do we try to contact, knowing that failure will mean the depletion of great resources.
To get to the CLOSEST star would take about 160,000 times the energy output of the entire Earth.

It's not that I don't WANT to believe. It's just the chances are so damn slim.
Theres a saying:
If we found out that we are the only intelligent life in our galaxy, That would be simply Amazing!
If we find we are NOT the only species of Life in our Galaxy.........That would be simply Amazing!
:)

[Desertrose]

34. Think out of the box....

Our knowledge & technology (at this point in time) are limited....doesn't mean anyone else's would have to be....

[Nostradammit]

36. That saying rings untrue to me.

Again, no offense, but the idea that we are not the only species in our galaxy
is not at all far-fetched if you consider that 100% of the planets that we know
to be capable of sustaining life DO contain life. And who knows what other kinds
of life forms could be out there? Methane-breathers? Sentient beings who survive
on photosynthesis alone?

I would also question the notion that a species capable of interstellar flight would
not find us interesting. Our own scientists go to enormous lengths to explore every
nook and cranny of the planet and I doubt their curiosity would wane once interstellar
flight was available.

It's possible that the Universe is much more interactive than you and I could ever imagine.

Best wishes ~

[BlueJazz]

41. What you say is true but keep in mind that we have Republicans...

...which cut our chances of being interesting by 50 percent. :)

[Avalux]

20. So who is flying those UFOs? n /t

[Warren DeMontague]

43. Cats.

[silverweb]

15. I'm ambivalent.

While I'm not necessarily a "believer," I certainly don't discount the possibility that there could be an advanced, extraterrestrial civilization observing us.

All I have to do is think of the original Star Trek series and its "prime directive." If we thought of it, why would it be so surprising to find that someone is actually doing it?

My entire belief system consists of "possibilities."

[Avalux]

19. I saw a UFO in 1981.

Driving from my Grandmother's house on a rural road in central PA, NO AIRPORTS within 200 miles and very dark. I saw a triangular shaped lighted object in the sky above my car, I could see it through the windshield. As I drove I kept my eye on it and it stayed in place; I kept driving and watching for what seemed like forever. All of a sudden it moved very quickly in a zig zag motion a few times, then disappeared. I kept driving, frantically looking for it and then when I realized it was gone, got really scared and started shaking. I remember it as if it was yesterday.

[Lucian]

22. Your anecdote sounds very familiar.

I've read hundreds of reports of people seeing flying triangle-shaped objects in the sky that fly in a zig-zag pattern. I've read they could be anything from military aircraft to ET's spaceships.

Out of curiosity, did it have a dome light under one of the points? And if so, did it look like it beamed down towards the ground?

[Avalux]

24. I don't remember a domed light that beamed.

I do remember the lights didn't blink at all like a plane (I kept trying to figure out if it was a plane) and they were uniform, bright.

[Lucian]

21. Anything can be a UFO.

Hell, a meteor can be a UFO to someone who doesn't know what it is.

But I'll bookmark this thread. It's interesting.

[frogmarch]

31. What's up with the lights?

I've posted about this before. I wish some UFO enthusiast would explain why ETs need lights on their vehicles. The lights apparently don't illuminate anything on the ground...and lights certainly don't make the vehicles of these notoriously shy ETs unnoticeable to earthlings. So, what good are the lights that are always associated with reports of nighttime sightings? ETs supposedly possess the technology to navigate vast distances through space - and yet they need lights? For what?

[Desertrose]

33. For us to be able to see them.

:)

[yodermon]

32. "UFO's" don't imply "aliens".

This implication is firmly planted in the public consciousness however (even right here in this thread), and it's the greatest well-poisoning exercise ever pulled off.

[LongTomH]

42. Granted!

The 'extra-terrestrial hypothesis' is one of many explanations for what we're seeing. All you can definitely say about the UFO phenomenon is that: 1) There is a phenomenon (or phenomenae - plural) and 2) They are as yet unidentified.

I'm going to surprise people by saying that I'm a skeptic, using the following definition of skeptic:

Skeptic - One who practices the method of suspended judgment, engages in rational and dispassionate reasoning as exemplified by the scientific method, shows willingness to consider alternative explanations without prejudice based on prior beliefs, and who seeks out evidence and carefully scrutinizes its validity.

By the way, look for a more detailed UFO article from me in a day or two.