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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:43 AM
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Where is all that Fukushima radiation going, and why does it matter?
Fairewinds’ founder Maggie Gundersen interviews environmental scientist and professional engineer Marco Kaltofen about his ongoing analysis of radioactive fallout from Fukushima.

Highlights

2:45 Internal radiation
5:00 Particles
9:00 Particles can land and continuous expose someone
11:10 Radiation in food going to be a nationwide problem
16:35 Geiger counter doesn’t measure dusty fallout
16:50 Gov’t agencies need to take on burden of testing, it’s going to be serious and we want to get info in a timely way

http://www.fairewinds.com/updates
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nonperson Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:01 AM
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1. It's with the BP oil
At this point it doesn't matter.

Cocktails anyone?
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:26 AM
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2. This is excellent
Addresses some of the questions people have about how this will affect Americans. We have to face this--it will affect us.

Recommended.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:56 AM
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3. K&R
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:44 AM
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4. k & r
Fairewinds is doing a great job putting out info the best way they can.

Meanwhile there is nothing from our government. :eyes:
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:16 AM
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5. I have to go to work...
this thread keeps sinking fast as OBL's postmortem continues. So can somebody else keep kicking this informative video about the fallout from Fukushima?

thanks :hi: mg
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:38 AM
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6. Zeolites are useful
Zeolites useful for removing radiation from the body
Tuesday, May 03, 2011 by: Sharon Stone

NaturalNews) Following the recent catastrophic tsunami that hit Japan, the nuclear reactor explosion from Fukushima Japan nuclear plant is blasting deadly radiation into the environment and poisoning human bodies. The victims need immediate protection or they can become deathly ill with nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, headache and fever. Even worse, radiation can cause long-term damage leading to leukopenia (cancer), genetic damage (inability to have children) and physical deformity. And the victims extend beyond humans: radiation strikes animals and the environment as well. Food can become contaminated with radioactive isotopes, as well the water supply that irrigates crops and supplies drinking water.

How can victims of radiation detox from this insidious insult? The answer lies in the use of natural zeolites, a class of natural minerals from volcanic ash that can help the body get rid of heavy metals and detox radiation sickness, even up to uranium 238! Containing a unique, negatively charged, crystalline structure, the zeolite captures these dangerous elements from the body into a molecular cage that the body excretes. Simple and safe to take, zeolite can be taken in liquid with little to no taste and requires little more than a few drops on the tongue at a time. No dangerous drugs. No painful shots. No hard to swallow pills. No nasty tasting drinks. No risk of unpleasant or dangerous side effects.

Using zeolites to clean up radioactive compounds is not new. At the Hanford Nuclear Facility in Richland, Washington, radioactive strontium-90 (Sr 90 ) and cesium-137 (Cs 137 ) have been removed from radioactive waste solutions by passing them through tanks packed with the natural zeolite clinoptilolite. Zeolites have also been used to clean radioactive wastes from the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant site and elsewhere (http://www.chemistryexplained.com/V...).

And zeolite's uses extend far beyond cleaning up radioactive waste. They are used in crops and pastures for higher yield by making fertilizers more effective and for long term soil improvements. They decrease ammonia levels in ponds and tanks and filtrate water for cleaner tanks by soaking up sulfur dioxide (SO 2 ), a pollutant produced by burning high-sulfur coal. Coming from waste toxic gases, sulfur dioxide is the major cause of acid rain. In fact, zeolites are the most effective filters yet found for absorbing sulfur dioxide from waste gases and are helping to clean the air of gases coming from energy plants which burn high-sulfur fossil fuel at the Ohio River Valley and other regions, as well as for purifying the air in mines. For years, zeolites have been used to detox animal waste, and even deodorize litter boxes, and as a water softener to remove calcium. They are also used in hydrogenating vegetable oils. Moreover, recent uses of liquid zeolite to detox heavy metals from the body have been shown to alleviate Candida Albicans, to help alkalize the body and to reduce viruses, bacteria and other pathogens from the system making it an effective immune system booster.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/032265_zeolites_radiation.html#ixzz1LIQlSBrh

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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:43 AM
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7. Belated release of radiation forecast data
Edited on Tue May-03-11 10:54 AM by robdogbucky
Belated release of radiation forecast data

The Japanese government is about to begin releasing data projecting the spread of radiation from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant that it initially withheld for fear of causing panic. The data in question is in a computer system called SPEEDI that predicts the spread of radioactive substances based on actual radiation measurements at various locations and weather conditions.

A joint task force of the government and Tokyo Electric Power Company says about 5,000 undisclosed bits of data will be released from Tuesday...

...Hosono said the task force withheld the information because some data were based on overly rigorous assumptions and feared it may trigger panic.

But he said the task force now believes that panic can be avoided if it offers proper explanations on the projections. He also promised to promptly release all such data in the future. Hosono said the task force will carry out a monthly check of how TEPCO is proceeding with its plan to bring the nuclear crisis under control. The utility firm announced a recovery roadmap on April 17th that calls for stabilizing the situation in 6 to 9 months.

Monday, May 02, 2011 19:34 +0900 (JST)

Source: NHK

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/02_32.html




Radiation forecast data released

The Japanese government has released data projecting the spread of radioactive substances from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. The science ministry uses a computer system called SPEEDI to predict how radiation will spread depending on weather and geographical conditions.

On Tuesday, the government released about 5,000 bits of data showing hourly predictions from March 11th. The information appears on the websites of the Nuclear Safety Commission and other entities.

The data was calculated on the assumption that radioactive substances are being released at a rate of one becquerel per hour. The data for 10 p.m. on March 15th, when an explosion occurred at the No.2 reactor, shows radiation flowing out of the screen to the northeast. Such data had been withheld for fear of causing panic.

Goshi Hosono, secretary general of the joint task force set up by the government and the Tokyo Electric Power Company, apologized on Monday for the delay in releasing the data. He said that he now believes that panic can be avoided if proper explanations are offered. Hosono promised to release data promptly in the future.

Tuesday, May 03, 2011 16:06 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/03_20.html

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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 11:01 AM
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8. Shareholders call for nuclear plant closures

"Some of the shareholders of a Japanese electric power company say they want the utility to close its nuclear power plants.

On Monday, a group of 232 individual stockholders of Tohoku Electric Power Company submitted the documents needed for their proposal to scrap its nuclear power plants.

The proposal is expected to be put to a vote in an annual shareholders' meeting at the end of next month.

Tohoku Electric Power has 2 nuclear power plants in Japan's northeastern region, one in Higashidori Village in Aomori Prefecture and another in Onagawa Town in Miyagi Prefecture...."

Monday, May 02, 2011 20:15 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/02_31.html


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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 11:06 AM
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9. WHO survey of Japan's Fukushima workers
Dying for TEPCO
By Paul Jobin

While Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) experiences difficulties in recruiting workers willing to go to Fukushima to clean up the damaged reactors, the World Health Organization (WHO) is planning to conduct an epidemiological survey on the catastrophe. This is the first of two reports offering a worker-centered analysis of the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

In the titanic struggle to bring to closure the dangerous situation at Fukushima Nuclear Plant No1, there are many signs that TEPCO is facing great difficulties in finding workers. At present, there are nearly 700 people at the site. As in ordinary times, workers rotate so as to limit the cumulative dose of radiation inherent in maintenance and cleanup work at the nuclear site. But this time, the risks are greater, and the method of recruitment unusual.

Job offers come not from TEPCO but from Mizukami Kogyo, a company whose business is construction and cleaning maintenance. The description indicates only that the work is at a nuclear plant in Fukushima prefecture. The job is specified as three hours per day at an hourly wage of 10,000 yen (about US$122). There is no information about danger, only the suggestion to ask the employer for further details on food, lodging, transportation and insurance.

Those who answer these offers may have little awareness of the dangers and they are likely to have few other job opportunities. A rate of $122 an hour is hardly a king's ransom given the risk of cancer from high radiation levels. But TEPCO and the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) keep diffusing their usual propaganda to minimize the radiation risks...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/ME04Dh01.html


Apparently this situation also has generated rumors of exploitation of lower class workers, "burakumin," (a minority group dating from Japan's feudal era and still often associated with discrimination).


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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:57 PM
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13. Not enough money to make me want to do the job
I am surprised all our nuke cheerleaders at DU aren't considering putting in their applications. They are all such experts about the dangers.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 12:59 PM
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10. Reduce Exposure to Radiation from Japan By Taking Off Your Shoes ... Japanese-Style
Tuesday, May 3, 2011
Reduce Exposure to Radiation from Japan By Taking Off Your Shoes ... Japanese-Style

The danger from the Japanese nuclear crisis is not over

As nuclear engineer Arnie Gundersen notes, 7 weeks after the Japanese earthquake, Chernobyl wasn't emitting any gas or liquids, yet Fukushima still is:

Video here

The Fukushima reactors are still emitting radioactive steam, and spilling high levels of radiation into the Pacific ocean. indeed, the Japanese are nowhere close to stopping radiation release.

Gundersen also suspects that the explosion at reactor number 3 was a nuclear explosion, where the initial hydrogen explosion triggered a "prompt criticality" which spewed radiation high into the air...

http://www.realistnews.net/Thread-gunderson-on-rt-fukushima-gross-miscarriage-of-radiation-science




A leading alternative health authority - Dr. Andrew Weil, a medical doctor who runs the Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona - writes today in response to the question of how to protect ourselves against radiation:

Since radioactive particles may be carried by dust, having a HEPA filter in your home would also be a good idea in the event of a nuclear accident that is close enough to be of concern:

"...I discussed other preventive strategies with Tieraona Low Dog, M.D., director of The Fellowship at the Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine and an expert on botanical health. She said that there is reason to believe that taking two to four grams of curcumin, the active compound in turmeric, can help protect a number of body tissues. In addition, reishi and cordyceps mushrooms can protect bone marrow from toxic assaults, and antioxidants can help the body defend itself from radiation damage. Since radioactive particles may be carried by dust, having a HEPA filter in your home would also be a good idea in the event of a nuclear accident that is close enough to be of concern.

Again, for those of us in the U.S., the expert consensus is that radiation leaks in Japan are not in that category. My suggestion is that in this instance, Americans should pay attention not to themselves, but rather to helping the Japanese overcome a truly hazardous situation that may take years or even decades to resolve. The Charity Navigator's website has detailed information and charity ratings for those wishing to donate to the Japanese relief efforts."

Andrew Weil, M.D.

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400903/Protection-Against-Radiation.html


"...And Marco Kaltofen - a civil engineer with a master's in environmental engineering - also stresses control of dust to reduce radioactive exposure:

•Have to prevent particles from landing, or clean them off. We've learned how to deal with toxic dust (for example, lead in dust). For example, wash your hands before preparing food. Take off your shoes when you come home, and leave your shoes at the door so you won't track dust inside your house. Take off your coat and hang it in a hall closet near the front door
•Geiger counter won't measure dusty fallout. It usually takes more expensive equipment

•Americium, europium, bismith, uranium and other radioactive particles from Japan are appearing on the West Coast
•But problem will be nationwide

•Exposure from particles can be long-term, as opposed to radiation from airplanes or x-rays
•There is more radiation in Japan than from atmospheric (above-ground) nuclear testing
•Could affect food grown in gardens
•Need more monitoring..."

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/05/reduce-radiation-from-japan-by-taking.html









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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:16 PM
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11. thanks for all this info
robdogbucky :thumbsup:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:52 PM
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12. Good source of Info!!
It is frustrating that so few are paying attention.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:26 PM
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16. What a week...
Edited on Tue May-03-11 08:26 PM by marions ghost
Tornadoes, birth certificate, Trump, royal wedding, Osama BL...

Thanks for continuing to bring this ongoing crisis in Japan to our attention.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:00 PM
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14. Thanks G.O.
I'll read tonight
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:35 PM
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15. Radioactive cars from Japan arrive in Chilean port
Customs agents in Chile have detected low levels of radioactivity in cars shipped from the Japanese port of Yokohama.



SANTIAGO, Chile —
Customs agents in Chile have detected low levels of radioactivity in cars shipped from the Japanese port of Yokohama.

Chile says the radioactivity was found in 21 of nearly 2,500 cars that arrived in Iquique aboard the Hyundai 106 cargo ship.

About a hundred port workers have protested, saying their health was at risk.

But Chilean deputy treasury secretary Miguel Angel Quesada said Monday that the Chilean nuclear commission has confirmed that the radioactivity is too low to cause damage to humans. He says the cars will be hosed down on board and any radioactivity will be contained inside inside the ship.

This is the first Japanese shipment to Chile to show radioactivity since Japan's massive earthquake and nuclear disaster.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2014936913_apltchileradioactivecars.html
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:51 PM
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17. Thanks for the info!
:thumbsup:

PB
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