Out Now, At Last, Mr. President?

[Donnachaidh]

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/05/02-1

As we know, in Vietnam, the U.S. Government never took the advice to declare victory and get out. Of course, I suppose that there were few people who ever really thought they would do that. Instead, the fear of losing face kept us there year after year until, when we finally did leave, there was no hiding the fact that we did so in defeat, even if that was never declared.

Today, this all reads like a matter of dates in a history book, but in real life it meant that a lot of Americans – and a lot more Vietnamese – didn’t have a real life any longer. So when we now see a face saving opportunity to get out of Afghanistan with a declaration of victory, which the death of Osama bin-Laden presents to President Obama, we should move heaven and earth to see that he takes it.

For some time now, it’s been obvious to anyone not caught up in the ten-year old War on Terror rhetoric that it no longer made sense to pursue the Afghanistan War – if it ever did. (I don’t think it did, but we can argue about that later.) Officially we invaded the country because the Taliban would not agree to turn bin-Laden over to the U.S. – if they ever got him in their custody – but only to the government of another Islamic country. That wasn’t good enough, so we set out to overthrow the Taliban and eliminate the al Qaeda forces in their country.

Nowadays, although the U.S. quickly drove the Taliban from power, no one any longer seriously talks about eliminating them from Afghanistan’s future. The only question is how large their role will be. And, with each day of war that passes, their credentials as liberators are burnished. Of course, negotiating with them in the future really shouldn’t prove very hard. After all, we once armed the proto-Taliban to fight the Soviet Union – we do speak their language. So why aren’t we doing that talking now? Same reason as in Vietnam: No president wants to admit that the mission was not accomplished. And when we set upon the course of occupying the country we sealed our fate on that score.

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[Ganja Ninja]

1. They just scored a whole lot of new intelligence materials in this raid.

I expect they'll be hanging around at least long enough to take advantage of it.

[seabeyond]

2. didn't they do just that. i think this is the big thing, for me anyway. what they must have obtaine...

i wonder what they will find pertaining to names and positions people may be occupying

[Ganja Ninja]

3. I expect there's a few people in the Pakistani military and government

that are more than a little concerned. Same goes for the Afghan's.

[seabeyond]

4. exactly, lol. ah ha. yup. nt