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Maat
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Sat Jan-01-11 06:33 PM Original message |
Stop the D.C. attack on the $2.2 trillion Social Security |
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MannyGoldstein
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Sat Jan-01-11 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Untrue!!! There's no attack on the $2.2 trillion OASDI fund!!!` |
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Maat
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Sat Jan-01-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Exactly! (n/t) |
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neverforget
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Sat Jan-01-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. The problem solvers will be here in a few telling us how dire SS funds |
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Sat Jan-01-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. The fix is simple (but not easy): raise income and capital gains taxes |
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MannyGoldstein
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Sat Jan-01-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Actually, the fix is easier - do nothing |
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sabrina 1
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Yes, that is the most important point. THERE IS NO CRISIS. |
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Mon Jan-03-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Suppose I owe $5000 on my credit card |
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sabrina 1
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Mon Jan-03-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. No, I certainly do not. The question is, why are you falling for this |
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Mon Jan-03-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I must have written that badly |
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sabrina 1
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Well, that isn't possible, unless they want to get all their other |
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Mon Jan-03-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. How? |
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sabrina 1
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Mon Jan-03-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. The Federal Govt. has nothing to do with the SS fund. They are two |
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Tue Jan-04-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Nobody is saying the Federal government would, should, or could default on the bonds |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jan-04-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. That would be illegal. So I hope if they do, it will be raised |
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Tue Jan-04-11 10:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. The OASI trustees are specifically legally empowered to redeem those bonds |
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sabrina 1
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Wed Jan-05-11 02:01 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. There are laws governing the SS fund. Congress may try to |
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Wed Jan-05-11 03:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You're still not getting the distinction, I think |
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sabrina 1
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Wed Jan-05-11 05:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. To even think of doing such a thing would be to default on |
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Wed Jan-05-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Exactly. Nobody wants to default, so that's why there would be an order not to redeem |
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sabrina 1
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Wed Jan-05-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Not to redeem ever? That IS defaulting. |
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Sirveri
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. We could also raise the cap to capture more income. |
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sabrina 1
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Mon Jan-03-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. They will tell us that the 'surplus is a myth' and that Treasury Bonds |
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Mon Jan-03-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. No, obviously not to China |
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Foo Fighter
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
7. The problem isn't with SS. The problem is that the message that SS is broke |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-04-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. It's still promising that a simple explanation can help pple understand. |
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Wed Jan-05-11 03:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
24. Social Security will be a drain on general revenues in coming years |
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sabrina 1
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Wed Jan-05-11 05:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. What utter nonsense. Every reputable economist in the country |
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Wed Jan-05-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The nonsense is your pretending that we don't have to pay that money back |
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sabrina 1
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Wed Jan-05-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. 'We' pay it back by ending these illegal wars, by taxing the wealthy |
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Ghost in the Machine
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Wed Jan-05-11 06:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Where did you come up with that load of bullshit? Please stop spreading rightwing propadanda here |
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Wed Jan-05-11 06:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Who has to pay back those bonds? |
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Ghost in the Machine
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Wed Jan-05-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Backpedaling and moving the goalposts with you doesn't make you right, either.. |
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Wed Jan-05-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. What I said was 100% true |
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Ghost in the Machine
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Wed Jan-05-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Keep deluding yourself, sunshine... what you said was false |
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Wed Jan-05-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Where we disagree |
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Ghost in the Machine
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Fri Jan-07-11 04:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. No, where we disagree is with your patently false assertion that |
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inna
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Fri Jan-07-11 05:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Insult to injury: ironically, thanks to Obama's another little-known poison pill |
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bvar22
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
8. The REAL "fix": |
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