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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:15 PM Original message |
I was expecting a moral dilemma. I am surprised it hasn't surfaced. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. I am right there with you. nt |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. If you find exceptions so easily |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Osama bin Laden can hardly be characterized as an "easy exception". Seems to me he |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. Let's go behind that a little bit . . . |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Because he declared war on us. Because he urged his personal little army |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. Because it is nearly universally acknowledged that he was behind the deadliest attack |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. So, what will be the next "universal acknowlegment"? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. "what if bin Laden wasn't involved in the 9/11 attacks"- ah, there it is. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. To all on DU who have been trying to white-wash an extra-judicial |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Right on ! Selective justice is not justice. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Yep. You don't treat evil men decently because of who they are. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Exactly. (nt) |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
62. That is so eloquent and so true. My wife plans to cite your |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. ... |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Well... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
47. You don't? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. OBL is the rare exception, not the rule. He was the one to declare war on the U.S. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. Amen. Very, very well said. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. I don't find exceptions easily. Which is why they're exceptions. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Isn't Bush a fucker? |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Please explain further what you're driving at. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Sorry....I misunderstood your post. n/t |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. You give up easy. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Happy to KnR this. Nt |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'm just wondering how to file it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I think the term is "targeted assassination". n/t |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Certainly it was, Is that already part of the legal lexicon? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I don't know. It's a good question. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. They say he resisted arrest. If he was shouting out orders or reaching |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I'm not attacking Obama. The poster wanted the term. n/t |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Sorry about getting you into that. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Oh, it's okay. n/t |
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canoeist52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. Relative Morality...Wow! Burn the Witch! |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. I share your moral principals... |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Rule of law? Due process? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
12. I would contest that there was a kill order |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. McChrystal is the one who developed the assasination program at JSOC |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. There have been assasination programs in the Special Ops community going back to Vietnam |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Yep, there have been others. But McChrystal developed this one. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. So you, Scahill or someone has credible evidence that a kill order was given? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. That isn't what I said, is it? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Oh my, go back to WW II |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
65. Uh, yeah. Phoenix Program executed 20-30,000 NLF cadre in its |
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pintobean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. Rec. n/t |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
20. Like shooting an unarmed man, in Unforgiven... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
21. you don't support the rule of law then. |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Aah, I love absolutes. Nothing like a zero tolerance rule for principles. n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. The rule of law allows all the soldiers there to protect themselves. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. pfft. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
27. No you aren't |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I think that's too harsh. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. I agree it's complicated |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. Thanks for setting me straight. |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yup, we are finding our 'moral lacunae.' |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
32. Stinky, you should be ashamed of yourself for being human. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
34. The fucker's dead....... |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
42. What might give you pause |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
43. Sometimes the moral thing to do is to do what's best for everyone |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
45. I think we all believe that some very brave men performed a necessary |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
48. Right there with you, Stinky. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
49. Shook those notions off, eh? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
51. I'm just proud as punch that OBAMA got him!!! n/t |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. Agree and +1 |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. Says more about the flexibility of your morals than anything |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Which is really what the OP says. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. No, the OP says "I expected to have a moral dilemma, but I don't" |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Thank you for the scolding |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. So is this your MO? |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Actually, I have no argument to make |
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Curmudgeoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
64. I support those same concepts. But if someone |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
67. yup...me too. i'm pretty much a pacifist + self defense... |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
68. I am ok with it as well |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-11 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
72. Right On, Stink. |
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