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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:10 PM Original message |
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RandySF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hoooray!! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good. |
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BillyJack (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. "activists" aren't always correct. Not everyone is vegetarian/vegan, as you well know... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Or KFC/Taco Bell's "Yum! Brands" |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. You must have glossed over the part of the story |
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Pigheaded (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I can't find it |
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BillyJack (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Please cite where in the article he wasn't treating the birds well. |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. *crickets* |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Look down. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Okay |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:12 PM Original message |
"problems in the past" |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
33. Cheeky. |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. So a guy legally selling non-factory farmed chickens is shut down? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. How do you know |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. No, he is selling factory farmed chicken.. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
86. good catch |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. . |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. No problem |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Fair enough. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Cool! |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. Kudos, Flvegan. I couldn't have said it better. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. Hey, flvegan... there is some good info in this article and great info in the comments. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. The follow up is also good. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. " Young had received hundreds of citations from ACC and warnings from the DPH" |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Have you noticed how quiet this thread got? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. : ) |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Because "militant vegan" is just fun to type. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
82. These citations were given primarily as a response to the picketer. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. The citations response to pictorial evidence submitted to ACC and DPH. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. The chicken shit bothers you more than the human shit, urine, puke, and blood? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
85. You must have glossed over this part of the story |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #85 |
100. No I didn't. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. Kindly explain what "vegetarian/vegan theology" is. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
91. He can't |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
81. Activists are completely worthless when it comes to accomplishing real goals. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. .......... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Mmm |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Yes, good. Now the restaurants can ship in dead birds from Tyson, Perdue, and others from all over |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Let me know when that happens. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. What do you think will happen? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Considering |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Sysco |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Do they deliver live chickens? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I've never seen it. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. The point |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
77. Fucking losers is what they are |
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BadGimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm sorry but this is fucking stoopid |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. I guess the activist want the chickens put to sleep before they chop their heads off. Also, |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Not just that. The restaurants were "supporting local farmers" which we preach. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. He's not a small local farmer. He sells spent birds from a factory egg farm. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
94. Please post that in capital letters |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
98. why aren't the veggies picketing the factory farm? |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. That is really stupid. |
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browntyphoon (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. Some cultures are still very attached to their food. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I think the problem is the Farmer's Market organization cannot afford the lawsuit. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. Shame on SF. This is VERY anti-food self-sufficiency and locavorism. |
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Sonoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Agreed. |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I guess SF prefers factory farms for their chicken meat. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Not local and he is a factory farm vendor. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. Then it's a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. No such ban citywide. But thanks for trying. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. Why did this come up Ray? Because San Francisco wants to run your life. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
22. oh great. Fascist vegan morons. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
23. This was a victory for coporations brought to them by idiots. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It wouldn't surprise me if the "activists" are corporate plants. |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. You know it. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
51. You spout off not even knowing who this guy is. He's received 100s of citations.. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
83. With SF's "activists", it's the friendliest city for factory farms outside Springdale, Arkansas |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. The chickens he sells are factory farmed. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Great. Then they should have picketed the factory farm. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
28. Proof that the militant vegans are morons. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Personally, you must be a moron, and I am not |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Militant meat-eaters are the biggest morons of all. nt |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. while I hesitate to call anyone names... |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
40. I'm having a hard time trying to figure |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. see response #36 |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. Show in the OP where there was any "animal cruelty" |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Here: |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. What BS |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I can say I am Wonderwoman. It doesn't make it so. 100s of citations from Animal Care and Control. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. All dismissed. Or did you not bother to read that part. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
89. but they were essentially void due to an exemption in California law pertaining to poultry. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. That exemption is everywhere. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. The problem is, state law supercedes stricter city ordinance. This will be rectified in future. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Oh but you don't mind a fish gasping to death in the air |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. Looks like a White Vegan's Burden to me. |
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BillyJack (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. THAT'S the THING. WE ALL think that the chickens are being treated inhumanely. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Wow. That tune changed. |
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BillyJack (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Yep flvegan.....it's just "sharpening the sword" eom |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Huh? |
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BillyJack (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Save the chickens! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I'm gonna |
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BillyJack (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I don't drink....but thanks. n/t |
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earthlight101 (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
74. SAD THAT THIS SORT OF NONSENSE IS ASSOCIATED WITH LEFTISM IN AMERICA |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
76. If he was selling birds that were treated humanely I would stand up for him |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
78. Jerks and idiots. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
79. It's racist and shows how 1 person with nothing to do can shut down a 20 year business. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
80. Hooray! Take that job growth! |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
87. Reminds me of the Portlandia Chicken sketch |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
88. You know what's a really tasty vegan snack (as long as you get it without butter)? |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-11 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
99. I am a vegetarian and I have to see this is really sad |
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