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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:22 PM Original message |
How many jobs have been lost to computers and technology? |
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littlewolf
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. actually computers create jobs ... |
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snagglepuss
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. The question is where are they created? I think you know that. nt |
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lumberjack_jeff
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. Increases in productivity decrease the labor required. |
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bluerum
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hardware and software engineering, design, manufacturing. All the retail |
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wtmusic
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. "It was automation, I know...that was what was making the factory go..." |
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SidDithers
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. Well, the abacus makers have been hit pretty hard...nt |
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wtmusic
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. There's only one answer to the abacus problem. |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. They ain't the only ones. |
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. Someday 2% of the population may produce all the physical goods in the world |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Very telling. |
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PSPS
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. What about a graph comparing mfg output per worker to worker wage? |
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Statistical
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I agree that has been a scam. There is a chart around that shows that. |
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PSPS
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Thanks again to saint ronnie |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Here it is: |
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BlackHoleSon
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. "Collapse" |
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FLPanhandle
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. Willfully choosing to less efficient probably isn't a great strategy in a global economy |
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wtmusic
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. If we could just get everyone to go Amish |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. But that is only half the story... |
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former9thward
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. We made automobiles. |
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jody
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. In general IT either automates labor intensive tasks or improves the decision making process of |
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cottonseed
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. The idea is that productivity gains in one sector leads to innovation and new industries. |
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X_Digger
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. The Buggy Whip Makers Union, Local #849 agrees! n/t |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. And so does Local #49 of the UAW... |
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Imajika
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. You can't willingly remain inefficient to protect jobs... |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Of course not.. |
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madrchsod
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. no jobs should be "lost" to technology |
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jody
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. "no jobs should be 'lost' to technology" but farm jobs were lost to technology. n/t |
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Scout
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Mon Jan-03-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
65. many jobs in printing were lost to technology, and they did NOT go overseas. n/t |
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hankthecrank
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Sun Jan-02-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
20. some Scifi shows us this |
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Xithras
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
24. Eventually, all jobs will be lost to computers and technology. |
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PeaceNikki
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Will they build and program themselves? |
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Xithras
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. Yes. |
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Dash87
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Mon Jan-03-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
66. Allow me to completely disagree. |
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Xithras
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Mon Jan-03-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. You're thinking far too small. And too short-term. |
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TheKentuckian
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. Good insight, Kentuck. Even without the madcap outsourcing and nutty trade deals |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. the first step should be to decrease the workweek... |
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PeaceNikki
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. lolz |
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treestar
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
28. It created the IT jobs. |
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PeaceNikki
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Change and technological advances are bad. |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I'm sure you will have the last laugh. |
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PeaceNikki
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Since I work in IT, I guess so. |
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madinmaryland
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Sun Jan-02-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. As we sit here debating it on the internet on DU! |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yes, but... |
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PeaceNikki
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. On what do you base that? |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. IT jobs can be outsourced also. |
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PeaceNikki
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. IT is the backbone of every department at my place of employment. |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I haven't seen any statistics. |
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PeaceNikki
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Sun Jan-02-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. And I think that advances in technology generally create jobs. |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. That may be true... |
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PeaceNikki
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. And you blame advances in technology? Not NAFTA or outsourcing? |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I'm not blaming - only stating what appears to be obvious. |
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HopeHoops
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Sun Jan-02-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
41. Oh, they haven't been lost. They're just all over seas now. |
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OhioChick
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Yep n/t |
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grahamhgreen
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
48. You're framing so that you see it from the rich peoples side - Here: |
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Igel
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
49. Almost all of them. |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Do you think it is no different this time.? |
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Warren DeMontague
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Sun Jan-02-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
50. Pretty much everyone I know who isn't working at a starbucks does something w/computers & technology |
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xor
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Sun Jan-02-11 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
51. How many jobs have been lost to open source? |
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Synicus Maximus
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
55. A whole lot less than have been created |
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Jamastiene
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Sun Jan-02-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
56. Nice post, Kaczynski. |
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kentuck
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I am Ted Kaczynski for asking this question? |
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bluestate10
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. You asked legitimate questions that should be pondered. |
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Shining Jack
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Mon Jan-03-11 05:51 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Answer number 2 is correct IMHO. |
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bluestate10
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
57. The alternatives are not appealing. |
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REP
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Sun Jan-02-11 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
60. Hot type, which was replaced by dedicated typesetters, which was replaced by desktop |
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Scout
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Mon Jan-03-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. the entire prepress process going digital wiped out hundreds of jobs |
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REP
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Tue Jan-04-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Cold type use(d) strippers, plates, press, binders, etc |
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Hippo_Tron
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Mon Jan-03-11 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
62. Of course technology has changed the workplace |
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Ohio Joe
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Mon Jan-03-11 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
68. They wiped out my Dads job |
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ItNerd4life
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Mon Jan-03-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
69. Before this recession, it was technology creating the jobs |
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