On global weather change

[nadinbrzezinski]

Yep, snow storms and we have the usual, it is not real. Well more dramatic weather events are part of it. That includes the dramatic floods in Australia, the blizzards this year, in both north America and Europe. Oh and of course twisters this week.

But you will hear it again...no, it is a lib'rul plot. Well Collapse by Jerrard Diamond should be required readying...that is where we are going. And partly the current denial/end of the world rapture crowd will be one of the reasons. These fuckers don't care by the way, they just don't and they also believe that it will not affect them... Well, guess what...it already is.

[fascisthunter]

1. As I Said before... Global Warming Deniers deserve to be Marginalized

this issue is not to be fucked with... our survival will depend on how seriously we take this issue. We know their motives... there is no more debate.

[Rage for Order]

4. True science encourages debate

Dogma, on the other hand, does not. Saying "There is no more debate" sounds much more like the latter than the former. Give me three predictions for the year 2015 based on man-made global warming theory. Please be specific, e.g. rather than saying "sea levels will continue to rise", predict by how much we should expect sea levels to rise. Rather than saying "temperatures will be warmer", predict the actual amount by which global temperatures will increase. Then, when 2015 arrives we can see whether the global warming science is accurate.

[fascisthunter]

5. sorry, but the science is there already

there is no more debate. Global warming is real and it's mainly caused by man. The science is already there.

[Rage for Order]

6. So then, your measurable predictions are....

?

[fascisthunter]

7. seriously dude... you are a waste of time

go play games with someone else.

[Rage for Order]

8. So much for your "science".

Come back when you have something solid to back up your claims. Chemists can tell us exactly how much energy it takes to increase the temperature of a given volume of water by 1 degree. Physicists can tell us exactly how much force is required to move a given object a certain distance at a certain speed. Man-made global warming promoters can tell us exactly...what?

[neverforget]

9. And you're telling us what?

[fascisthunter]

10. Do You Disagree with the Majority of the Globe's Scientific Community?

If so, what do you have to counter them. Lol...

The challenge for you is not to disprove what a poster on a discussion forum says(me), but to disprove what the the majority of scientists are claiming and have proven. You can't.... so trying to marginalize me and what I know is irrelevant to the fact that Global Warming is Real and it is mainly man-made.

Here's an article regarding the global climatological

"A new study looking at more than 900 climate researchers have found that the majority of scientists with prominence and credentials in climate research believe humans are behind global warming."

http://planetsave.com/2010/06/27/the-scientists-do-agree-on-global-warming/

Where's your evidence coming from Rage for Order? Hmmmm... it sure isn't coming from legitimate sources that's for sure.

[malaise]

17. I believe them

This is the first time in my life that we have worn socks to bed in Kingston Jamaica. Over the years we've had cold fronts for a maximum three day period. This year the temperature dropped for over a week. What's more we walk barefoot through our home all year and the floor is too cold this year.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Seriously the science is no-longer up for debate

If you believe it is, then you agree with less than 3% of science folks, most employed by the usual suspects, such as BP.

[Viking12]

18. You contradict yourself...

First you say that there are no 'settled' questions in science, then you say that chemists and physicists make predictions based on settled science. Which is it? The fact is there are many 'settled' questions in science. There are many settled questions in climate science. Like most deniers, I suspect your a scientific illiterate that merely parrots RW talking points.

[H2O Man]

13. True, that.

[lunatica]

11. Sorry, but you're being obtuse

No one can predict exactly what climate change will do in three years because no one knows how climate change will manifest, except to say that climate will be more severe. We're already seeing that.

Do you want someone to say it will rain exactly so many inches on your house in three years? Good luck with that.

[neverforget]

2. The deniers are too stupid to realize that while it's winter in the Northern

Hemisphere, it's summer in the Southern Hemisphere. Extreme winter storms in the north this year while the southern hemisphere has floods and heat waves. But then again, they think climate is looking out their window to see what the weather is like now.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Which included a 20 year flood outside my window

The last was in 1993... With a less severe pattern in 2003. The 2003 even washed out a bridge.

[Denninmi]

12. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure it out.

The weather becomes more bizarre every year. Much more erratic. I recall New Years with cold rain, and those with snow or ice. But I never recall one in the 50's with warm rain and thunderstorms in Michigan. Further south, there was an outbreak of tornadoes that I gather was virtually unheard of for December/January.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Mexico city is shorts in May

Unheard off as well.

[Speck Tater]

14. I'm reading "The Collapse of Complex Societies" by Tainter.

22 years old and in it's 21st printing, and still very relevant to today's world.