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karnac (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 01:37 AM Original message |
Did Bradley Manning Almost Blow The Operation To Capture/Kill Osama Bin Laden? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. This confirms my suspicion that Bin Laden was being protected |
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karnac (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I wouldn't go that far. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. So much bullshit. Documents released by Wikileaks show you... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. I don't think he had the choice to "scram." |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. It's doubtful that they were afraid of Bin Laden finding out. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. Wow, that's incredible. |
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karnac (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 02:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Here is the Actual wikileaks document. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. don't you mean "Wikileaks," and not "Bradley Manning"? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 05:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Evidence has been brought, Manning has been charged on that evidence. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 05:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I stand corrected, then, but he has not gone to trial or been found guilty |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 06:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I didn't see any links in that reply. How were you corrected? |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 06:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. has he been CHARGED, or not? |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. Self delete |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 07:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I am not a mind-reader, so I never presume to tell others what they might be thinking. |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 05:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. That would be yes. n/t |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 07:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Then you believe no charges were filed. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 06:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. oh, and yes, I do "believe" they'd detain him without charges |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 08:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Prisoners of War are detained until the war ends. nt |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Who is the enemy in this war? When did it begin? How will you know when it ends? |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Name - GWOT |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Revealing. So are you saying that Manning is Al Qaeda? |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 05:31 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. No. Manning is a US soldier. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. The enemy in this case is a construct. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. So you have no problem with the murder of our soldiers? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. What an absurd and defamatory response. Have you stopped beating your spouse? |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You implied it was justified. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Actually, you said the US has the right to murder all the Guantanamo prisoners. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:01 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. US soldiers who have been "captured" have been murdered. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. Would Manning be the first man to be held by the USG for a year without evidence? |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
61. Evidence has been brought . . . |
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KewlKat (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'm so confused |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. This was the game of justification. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. USA! USA! USA! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. Is this the same Libi that was tortured and whose false confession |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
14. How much longer were we going to wait? Nt |
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KewlKat (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I honestly believe |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. lots of speculation. nt |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Why UBL and not OBL? (I've wondered for a long time, pls explain) nt. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 07:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
62. There is no universally accepted standard for transliterating Arabic words and Arabic names |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
21. Perhaps. And a lot of DU'ers think there should be no classified info. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. And that viewpoint by some is naive and very dangerous. nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. It's very much like adolescent thinking. When you feel you know everything and don't need authority |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
22. Gotta squeeze Manning and Wikileaks into the center of the hate. Unrecced. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
23. Wow. If I'm reading this right, do we owe Obama an apology? |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Hence the charge giving "aiding the enemy". |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. No, we don't. Brad Manning couldn't compromise what was already public information. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
25. No, the information has been out in the press for a number of years. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:16 AM Response to Reply #25 |
60. Your link does not support your claim. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
27. Clearly, it was Manning and those damn opponents to torture who loved OBL. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Not what is being said here. That you need to resort to such outrageous, hyperbolic straw men |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. What is being said here is an outrageous attempt to bring Manning into the OBL story. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Obvious. These folks are unsavory. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. "There are those who have their talking points ready" |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. +1000. Both the Pakistani ISI and our own USG apparati |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. It would not surprise me were Manning to die while in custody, the |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
34. ::cough:: US elite were training Pak forces just 800 yards from his house |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Right up there with "No one could have predicted. . . . " - n/t |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Requires much willing suspension of disbelief |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. +1 |
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s-cubed (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
39. Maulawi Abd al-Khaliq was reportedly only a nickname, |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. Difficult to say whether a "real" name would matter. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-08-11 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
45. No. |
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