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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 07:37 PM Original message |
Mother: I did not murder autistic son (she strangled him with her belt to 'send him to heaven') |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. sad sad story. |
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Tikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. I worked within Special Education and saw parent after... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. She is not a parent. IMO |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The pressure of raising a child with severe autism should not be underestimated. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. She did try to kill herself |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. It does sounds like she intended to do the best thing for him |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. So what? |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Of course it's not OK |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. An intervention would be nice....but that kind of love is not very supportable |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. Hi. You must be new. Search "Andrea Yates" |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. I cannot imagine how hard it would be. My heart goes out to those families. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It sucks at times, that's for sure. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Services in Wales must be as piss-poor as they are here |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. National Health has been slowly dismantled since Thatcher |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
57. That's OK...regular old kids get left all the time.... leaving them is better than killing them, eh |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. agreed |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. So how is that not murder? |
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Chris_Texas (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. Sad story |
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BanzaiBonnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Must have been a Randian |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. No, she is the result of the disgusting shit spewed by organizations like Autism Speaks. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. No; she had left a violent marriage, was practically homeless and her child's sole caregiver |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Notice lots of people feel sorry for mom... |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. You are kidding, right? |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
46. Compassion for abused homeless women who are sole care-givers to severely disabled kids? Yeah, right |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. I am referring to |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
52. It is possible to be against the social situation which contributed to the killing |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. YES! |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Please knock that shit off. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. WTF???? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-11 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. Go to HELL, you hateful B****. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
20. How easy to judge this woman, but no one knows what insanity drove her to do this. I can't imagine |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Groups like Autism Speaks incite such acts. Google "autism ransom note ads". |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Show me ONE thing that Autism Speaks -- not NYU -- has done that |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Mmmmmmkay. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Soooo.... You're saying a mother with an autistic child should not express |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Okay, let's try a thought experiment |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Ooh, goody, an experiment. Now, if you could just share a thought. |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Saying it in front of the kid is mental abuse... |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. It might be if the child comprehended exactly what she's saying. |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. I teach autistic kids... i spend mon-fri dealing with autism |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. I know my son understands some things. |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Nobody does. I can't understand many of the attacks against teachers and education |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Thanks. |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. :0) |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. It shows. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. Nobody understands everything, but I do find the Neurotypical pretention that they... |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. And? |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. I'm confused... did I offend you because I said I thought it was |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I was offended by Common Sense Party saying he "knows" what his kid can understand. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Aren't you confusing savant syndrome with autism? |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. This was the medical diagnosis I had to work with. There could be |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. you mean they were all diagnosed autistic but nobody knew if they were all savants? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Thanks, KA! |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. I would have turned her in to the authorities and made sure |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Not directly incited, just insinuated that our lives are worthless. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Cite to evidence, please. |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. I just feel really really really bad for the kid |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
63. People who commit violent acts are, by definition, 'insane' in a fashion. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
23. "he's in heaven now where he won't be autistic"??!! |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
27. Wow. This is so stupid. |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. I blame a failure in social services.... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
64. Well, this was in Wales, so I'm not sure what the social services situation is there. nt |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Two are Biwro Cenedlaethol y Plant and Y Gwasanaeth Iechyd Gwladol (NHS) |
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Wounded Bear (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
36. So basically, it was a "late term abortion".........fundie Christian style.nt |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. No, it was the desperate act of a suicidal homeless woman who'd left an abusive marriage |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
42. I finally clicked on the link, I'm guilty of jumping to conclusions after reading the excerpt here. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I think we're the only ones who read the article - it's a very sad story |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. yes. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
50. This one I really won't judge, and I'm a judgmental bee-yotch. |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I'm trying to have pity all around...but I can't help but judge a little bit... |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
51. I'm not going to be her jury. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
53. She would have a compelling insanity defense in the US. n/t |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
54. Sounds like she had some kind of psychotic break |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
65. So they should send her to "Jesus's cozy cement cubbyhole." |
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