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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:34 PM Original message |
Meet The Workers Who Make Your iPad: 100 Hours Of OT, No-Suicide Pacts, Standing For 14 Hours A Day |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. If it says "Made in China," I assume it's made under similar conditions, no matter what it is or |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. And exactly the workforce republicans are trying to create here, making |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. No use in even caring, huh? nt |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Do you mean about these particular workers? On the contrary -- I'm pointing out that the problem is |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
95. + 1 nt |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. +1 |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Yeah I'm not sure why people are so surprised |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
77. Apple products aren't cheap! |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Sure they are |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
96. I assume the same and I also assume if John McCain says it, it's |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah, but Macs are soooo fuckin' cool! |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. No. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
94. +1 nt |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
78. And Mac bashing is way fuckin' cooler |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
101. The article mentions that HP also uses these factories |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. If they only assured those workers that American progressives love Apple products |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Reading at your link I find I much prefer the tastes of Mac users. |
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svpadgham (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
92. I looked at it. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. And many in our country |
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RevStPatrick (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Exactly! |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. I built my own box |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. Here come the excuses! My favorite: STFU if you own a computer (because they ALL do it!) |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Well, name one that doesn't. The whole industry does this and it is sickening |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Maybe if Apple maniacs weren't so smug, they'd be a more difficult target |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Sounds like you have never owned a Mac |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Apples are toys. nt |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. Awesome! Then I've made a very comfortable living for 20 years... |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
99. yeah toys ... |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. My then 15 year old grandaughter insisted on a Mac for her |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
91. I owned a Mac |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. It turns out that the idea of a "progressive corporation" is an idiotic myth... |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 02:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
84. Actually there are some "progressive corporations" |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. It seems like we are all caught in some systemic trap. Cost of living, no manufacturing here, more |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. "Everybody's doing it!" isn't a valid excuse. nt |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. What then is the alternative vendor? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. There's any number of small system builders out there. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Did you read my post? I said it was sickening. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Then take my post as an amplification of yours. nt |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. Are there any tech products still manufactured in the USA? |
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lifesbeautifulmagic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. mac user here |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Yes. Every component of my last windows system build was manufactured outside of the US |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. "made outside of the US" = / = "made in a sweatshop" |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Um, I do suspect there's a fairly big difference |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. " = / = " means "does NOT equal"! nt |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Sorry... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. No problem! |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
16. Foxconn builds computers for a number of major manufacturers. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Apple is the biggest tech company in the world. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. I think its fans hold it out to be progressive, |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Yes Apple doesn't market politics. They market having the best user experience as compared |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. "It also holds itself out as a "progressive" company." I beg to differ |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. The below never happened, huh? |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Explain how that is supposed to political |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I don't think saying that the advertising is subtle is a damning argument though |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. "more enlightened" does not equal "progressive". More enlightened user interface |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. The Ipad is barely a year old. I DO agree that Apple has changed the focus of its marketing |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. How is that progressive? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. See my response, above. |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
73. my personal favorite |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
54. Apple self-reports... |
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MattSh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 06:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
85. Why? |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'm holding out for the Iphone 5 |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. I want an iPhone 4 but my girl wants me to wait for the 5. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
35. In the end, does this really suprise anyone that these corporations don't give a shit about workers |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. True that. nt |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Nope, and as soon as they can fully get away with it here, they will. n/t |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. That IS the plan. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Did we have the story re IKEA posted here at DU? |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. I remember seeing a couple of threads about it on DU. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #52 |
72. Thanks -- I must have missed it -- !! |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #35 |
103. Nope, you know the Koch brothers cry themselves to sleep at |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
48. And what do these sell these things for here?? $1000? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Khakis made in the USA aren't that hard to find. |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Big thanx for the link |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
50. Sounds like Repiglican/Plutocrat paradise |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Except this is an actual American company, actually doing this for real, right now nt |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. I meant those working conditions will soon |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
53. My first Mac was built in the US |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Actually... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Alto |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Exactly. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Xerox could own the world today |
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parasim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Indeed, they could. nt |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Except one: the Local Area Network (aka Ethernet) was grabbed by Novell instead. -nt |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Ethernet was stolen by Robert Metcalfe (even though |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. oh, and Novell screwed up the naming of their frame formats |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
90. Correct |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
71. EVERY FUCKING PRODUCT SOLD IN AMERICA IS MADE THIS WAY! Reality check time! |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Indeed why single out Apple. it is EVERY product made in |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 06:35 AM Response to Reply #71 |
86. My bike is a Trek, Made in America. Not by sweatshops. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:27 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. You hit the nail on the head...you can AFFORD to buy American. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
74. There should be a thread suggesting a boycott of these products because the |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
76. "managers and front-line supervisors are cautioned against using physical disciplinary measures." |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Fuck that! the day Managers can abuse me is the day I become a career criminal |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. At least here they aren't generally allowed to hit you...yet. n/t |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
97. lucky for us, laws are easier to pass than repeal |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-11 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
82. Foxconn |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
83. Apple is a major corporation, people. |
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mountainlion55 (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
88. Just look in the mirror |
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BigD_95 (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
93. It even says |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
98. I LOVE that every time the word APPLE is mentioned.... |
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BigD_95 (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. I think its more of a profit margin |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Thier CEO might have to live on 24 million a yr rather than |
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