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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:36 AM Original message |
Actually, It Is the Projected Growth of Private Sector Health Care Costs That Is Unsustainable, |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. K & R. This is exactly right. Medicare costs are only high because private costs are so high, and |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. The costs in a single payer system.... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I still don't understand why our costs are so out of line. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. That is not the primary reason. The primary reason is that providers can charge basically whatever |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So you think the problem is the providers, ie Doctors and hospitals? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Yes, absolutely. Providers providers providers. Our doctors make too much money for medicine to |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:36 AM Original message |
Sorry, duplicate - server error I think |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Most Canadian GPs make... |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Indeed. Another factor in the US for why doctor pay is so high, is that the AMA artificially |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 04:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. The AMA was so scared of single payer.... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Don't Canadian physician |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. When there are no out of pocket costs.... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Nope, it's for a lot more than you pay the doctor for |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Physician incomes SEEM |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Correct, but the solution there isn't to make physician pay unsustainable like it is now. The |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Do you realize? |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It doesn't surprise me |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. That sounds quite possible..... |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. This is fairly old (1987), but I think the proportions might be close |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Those are great stats. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
3. with the downward spiral of wages, who does the private sector |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
12. actually, it's the growth of the unbridled power of the ruling class, as well as their wealth. |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
13. Estimates of U.S. Health Care Administrative Savings from Transition to Canadian Style Single Payer |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
15. Every Boomer who "graduates" into Medicare is a LOST "customer" |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Touche! |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
18. Kicked and recommended. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
20. MEDICARE FOR ALL --- Not back room deals with Big Pharma and private h/c industry!! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
24. Exactly. |
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