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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 07:40 AM Original message |
Why isn't this child beauty pageant system not regulated? My lord, |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. What doctor would give an 8-year old Botox? |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. the mother is giving it to her |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Then she should be investigated for child abuse. n/t |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. link |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Mom insists Britney wanted to have the Botox--but who initiated the idea? Mom, of course. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
52. why would it matter in the least that an 8 year old wanted something? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
76. I'm sure I wanted to jump out of airplanes and |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. Because Britney read about it in her _Weekly Reader_, and all her |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. When the interviewer asked the child why she did it, the little girl |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Thanks. I couldn't find a location that wasn't in a viewer and |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. She needs to be investigated |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
78. +1 |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
99. Definitely. |
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LetTimmySmoke (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
80. And the local DA is doing nothing? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. She should be arrested for child abuse. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Deleted sub-thread |
patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
39. Arrest would make the problem worse not better. nt |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
40. Republicans want to arrest everyone for whatever. How does acting like them help the children? nt |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 05:24 AM Response to Reply #40 |
90. What an unadulterated crock o'shit |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
41. The nanny-state does not fix anything, only enables or transfers weakness to other behaviors. nt |
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Very_Boring_Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. Yes, damn that nanny state for stopping me from injecting my 8 year old's face with poison |
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AlabamaLibrul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Mmmm... Botulinum toxin |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
79. Clearly our freedom is at stake |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. Arrested? I say sterilized. Any parent (m or f) who does that to a child has proven themselves unfit |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. sounds like PARENT needs to be regulated |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. mothers living vicariously through their kids |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Yes, but someone is getting that stuff for her too. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. you'll get no guff from me on that point |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Not regulated! Educated. Both parent and child. Separate from one another. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. she IS educated (anesthetist part time) |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Suggesting appropriate Mental Health/Psychology curriculum at all levels here. nt |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. not educate...diagnose. the woman obviously has a problem |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. All appropriate education includes valid & thorough assessment. I personally DO NOT |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. ok...you believe she needs to be educated... n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. That's where it starts and only escalates if necessary, i.e. dysfunction is apparent, |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
81. Honey - it HAS escalated |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. The challenge is to get people to make their own choices without warping that through |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
85. It's necessary here |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. she/the mom AND the child - separately. nt |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
82. This isn't even about education |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
45. That explains it. Anesthetists have a HIGH rate of addiction. I wouldn't be surprised if she is |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
83. Something is for sure |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. "Aesthetician" not anasthetist |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. then i misheard... |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
98. She's an aesthetician part time, not an anesthetist |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. and I said in the post IMMEDIATELY above yours that I misheard |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. No... |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. fair enough... |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
7. Regulated? Why does it even EXIST?? |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. It exists for pedophiles, both male and female. It's sick and tragic. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
35. True, that. Many participants are more-or-less "innocent" but that strain has to be there and even a |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
95. I couldn't agree more. Everything about that "hobby" is horrifying and repulsive. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Exactly. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
96. Exactly what I was thinking. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
100. It's so mommy can live vicariously through her daughter |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
14. Can't the mother go to jail? |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
15. love how the little girl had to keep looking to mom for answers |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
16. waxing leg hair off of an 8 year old??? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I know. I kept thinking it will only be 2 or 3 years until |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
20. I'm going to be extremely judgemental here when it comes to these beauty pageants... |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. I agree to some extent. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. If these pageants are to continue I think alot of it should be banned |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
101. They have "no makeup" pageants but I worry about them. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
58. I think the parents that push their kids into the gymnastic scene are the same. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 05:21 AM Response to Reply #58 |
89. it's the same with the arts and sports and entertainment, etc. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
21. Why? Because people think they own their children the same way they own property, to do with as they |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
24. How is this any different |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Yes, because injecting botulism in to the face of a child is the same as playing sports. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. The may not play professionally, but many do have to have medical interventions for knees & such |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. So have all my friends who jog, run, hike, swim and bike. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. That does not mean that no one pushes their children in ways that are developmentally inappropriate |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Not sure if we disagree on anything. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
42. My son has always been big for his age & has been "recruited" to play football since he was about 9 |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 06:15 AM Response to Reply #24 |
91. Or, little girls who participate in cheerleading? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
97. One is a sport while the other is the injection of a chemical. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
25. Appropriate Psychology curriculum should be a part of core curricula at all levels, so that |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
26. Fuck regulation, outlaw the dam things! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
29. What do you want to bet there's all kinds of churchco "fellowship" groups for these mothers. |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
46. I saw part of that interview |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
50. that is some sick shit right there. ugh. |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
53. Mom's upper lip doesn't move when she talks... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
54. kr |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
55. That whole 'scene' is deeply, deeply creepy. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. I've seen it in person. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
56. Regulated? It should be BANNED. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
60. I remember reading a similar story once and thinking "this can't be real" |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Oh I've seen it. It's very real. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I meant the botox. The first case that hit the media turned out to be a hoax. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Hoax or not, neither one would really surprise me. |
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toddwv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
61. So you can't buy more than 2 bottles of cough syrup w/o raising a red flag |
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Philippine expat (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
68. They should not |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
70. The while frigging thing is ridiculous |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. And that's what a kid should be doing |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #75 |
88. My daughter dances |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
72. How did the first person to suggest this not get chased out of town by an angry mob? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
73. You have got to be kidding me |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
74. I read the article, and I wonder |
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Chris_Texas (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
77. Counterpoint :) |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
84. Same reason most cities don't regulate ice cream truck drivers? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
86. A little girl whose mom helps her fix her "wrinkles"---anyone want to take bets |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
87. I hope this woman was arrested |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
92. Those pageants really, really bother me. |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
93. Unimaginable. If that's not child abuse, what is? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
94. Updated this earlier on another thread because I couldn't edit it any longer. Link. |
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