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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:18 PM Original message |
Convince me I'm wrong that the death penalty is ridiculous. |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. You're wrong. It's tragic AND ridiculous. (yer welcome!) n/t |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. AND it's also horribly wasteful, in multiple ways. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm not convinced prison isn't ridiculous in most cases. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. It used to be for "correction" (to whatever extent possible) NOT punishment. |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Killing people teaches them that it's wrong to kill people. |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. No, the death penalty is there to "tell" those that |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. Nope . . . |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. The honest argument is punishment. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Heck, I advocate we start executing those accused of capital |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Putting someone in jail is punishment, too. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yes putting someone in jail is punishment. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. What about all those places that live very well with not having the DP? |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. What about them? |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Well, hey, murder is murder. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. No all murders are not equal. |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. There are laws which address this. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. But we don't even know if it is "punishing" |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. We can't "know" anything for certain if you follow that logic. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The point is... Duh... |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. interesting point |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Punishment, if it's not a mechanism to bring other things... |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. If Osama was killed for deterrence or security we wasted our time. |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. My thought as well. |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
8. As now applied? Here's a game theoretic argument for the death penalty... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. Sometimes the opposite happens. |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. Nope. It's the one thing conservatives OUGHT TO agree with us about. |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. The honest argument? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. You know a lot of people have had convictions overturned all the way up to the last appeal? |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. I have no desire to kill the innocent. |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
12. Full agreement here - and I used to be for the death penalty also |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. ridiculous and death penalty should never be used in the same sentence. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. Not me. There are too many arguments against capital punishment... |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I know the Green River Killer case very well |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
17. No. It's as ridiculous as cancer. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
21. Why does this guy oppose the DP? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
24. I support the DP only for those who commit war crimes, genocide, and mass murder. |
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Zax2me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
29. Replace it with hard labor for life |
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