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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 02:24 PM
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Former Reagan, Bush aide, John Wheeler, found murdered in landfill
John Wheeler, Former Aide To Both Bush And Reagan Presidencies, Found Murdered In Delaware
by Jon Bershad | 1:53 pm, January 3rd, 2011

Tragic news out of Delaware as a body discovered in a Delaware landfill on New Years Eve has been confirmed as John P. Wheeler III, a decorated veteran who worked with three different Presidential administrations. His death has been ruled a homicide.

Wheeler served in the Vietnam War, served as an aide to both Bush administrations as well as the Reagan administration, and was the chairman of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund with whom he was instrumental in getting the Vietnam Memorial built. Recently, he had been working to get the ROTC brought back to Ivy League campuses. He was last seen on an Amtrak train last Tuesday.

Below is the Fox News report on his death. Here you can read a quick remembrance by The Atlantic’s James Fallows, who helped him with his book Touched with Fire.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-wheeler-former-aide-to-both-bush-and-reagan-presidencies-found-murdered-in-delaware/

via @gregmitch
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 02:27 PM
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1. Ladies and Gentlemen, Start Your Conspirancies......
Condolences to the Wheeler family.
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 02:33 PM
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2. Oh no...
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 02:49 PM
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3. I wonder how he crossed them. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 02:56 PM
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4. I believe I'll wait a bit before assigning a cause to this murder.
Seems prudent. Lots of reasons that people are murdered.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 03:36 PM
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9. I'm sure a Left-wing lone gunman did it. NOT.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 03:40 PM
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11. Generally, bodies found in landfills aren't there by accident.
Edited on Mon Jan-03-11 04:12 PM by Javaman
I'm just saying.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 03:50 PM
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13. You're right. It's already recognized as a homicide.
I'm just not saying anything about why the man was killed. Too many possibilities for conjecture.

Could be a jealous husband or boyfriend. Could be a paid assassin. Could be almost anything.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 04:14 PM
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15. Oh I get what you are saying...
Yeah, given the fact this guy worked for a few admins, I'm sure the net is hot with various theories.

But another way to look at it is this way: if a body is thrown in a landfill, it's thrown there so it would never be found.

Someone got a tip from someone as to where to locate the body.

Not that I know anything about such things...(walks away whistling) LOL
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 06:05 PM
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19. I don't think anyone was tipped.
From CNN

"...Wheeler's body was seen jutting out of a garbage truck at the landfill by a spotter whose job it is to ensure that hazardous material is not dumped there.

Police believe Wheeler's body was most likely picked up by the truck at one of the first of ten specially designated dumpster pick-up spots before heading to the landfill."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/03/delaware.pentagon.official/index.html?hpt=T2
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 11:56 PM
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21. Lol they got lucky. LOL nt
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 03:00 PM
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5. I'm sorry to hear this
He was a good guy.

R.I.P., Jack :patriot:
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 06:02 PM
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18. The Long Gray Line - USMA (West Point) Class of '66
R.I.P., indeed.

Rick Atkinson, in his moving The Long Gray Line: The American Journey of West Point's Class of 1966, probably gave more ink to John Parsons Wheeler III (Jack) than any other individual. In the chapter titled "Farewell to Arms," Atkinson describes Wheeler's party for the occasion of his resignation from the US Army - a FTA party. The cover was "Farewell to Arms," but all knew it was really a "Fuck the Army" party.

:patriot:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 01:57 AM
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22. Thanks for the info, Mac
I remember the reviews of the book, and some excerpts, but I never read it. I guess I'll have to do that now.

I met Jack Wheeler back in '86. We had a number of conversations at the Wall and by phone, and I was very much impressed by him. I'd read his book, 'Touched with Fire: The Future of the Vietnam Generation,' which promoted a unifying and healing theory of our generation--some marched in uniform and fought the war, others marched in the streets against the war. But, despite our divisions, he saw us as having in common our active efforts to live up to our ideals, and to respond to the call of JFK.

When we talked, it was about the book, the war, the Memorial, and his work with MADD. His book really struck me, mostly because I'd suppressed VN for a lot of years and read it just when I was beginning to open up, and it really helped me. I also remember that Jack talked about his daughter, whom he loved very much and also wrote about in his book. I feel for her now, in her great loss...

Jack's work to build the Wall was especially impressive. Scruggs had the romantic story--the lowly infantryman, sipping whiskey in his kitchen, who came up with the idea. But it was Wheeler and and another guy, Bob Doubek, who had the political and organizational and legal smarts to be able to maneuver through all the many obstacles and challenges and make it a reality. Without Wheeler, I doubt we'd have succeeded.

Good to run into you again, brother. I hope you've got a gallery showing or two during your respite from the tower, and time to write...

Love & Peace,
pinboy3niner
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 03:05 PM
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6. Isn't there something out there about
when you swim with the sharks, you end up sleeping with the fishes? Even if he was a good guy, it would seem that hanging around with and serving evil like Reagan and Bush would be dangerous if you cross the powers behind those guys.

That's my conspiracy theory. :tinfoilhat:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 03:35 PM
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8. Whom do you think he crossed?! He was looking to put ROTC back on campuses! If THAT ain't doing the
bidding of the M-I C, NOTHING is.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 03:38 PM
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10. Maybe he wanted to do it in a manner
that wasn't to their liking. Ever think about that?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 06:48 PM
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20. I can't imagine

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110103/NEWS01/101030329

In 2009, Wheeler and Klyce sued to stop construction of a new home across the street, contending it would block their view. After a long battle, New Castle's historic commission granted Frank and Regina Marini permission to build a two-and-a-half story home on the lot.

Though the home is under construction, Wheeler and Klyce have ongoing litigation against the Marinis in Delaware Chancery Court, said attorney John Tracey, who is representing the Marinis.

On Tuesday, firefighters discovered a smoke bomb that had been thrown inside the Marinis' home. The state fire marshal is investigating the incident, but officials haven't linked the two events.

"Mr. Wheeler and his wife have been obviously opposing my client's plans to build a house on her property and I would just leave it at that," Tracey said Sunday. "It is a nice location and one could understand why she'd like to build a house on it."

Wheeler, who went by "Jack," had gained some notoriety for fighting the Marinis.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 05:31 PM
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17. No kidding. I've been wondering lately who takes over for Poppy.
He must be semi retired by now. I hope his old advisors don't keep showing up in landfill. :tinfoilhat:

And, this poor family. Terrible enough to lose a loved one like this but during the holiday week, that becomes a yearly anniversary. :(
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 03:41 PM
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12. Hillary did it.
Someone page Mr. Burton and Mr. D'Amato. We obviously need hearings.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 03:56 PM
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14. "Sniff, sniff." - Americans with Memories
Do we detect that old-fashioned pungent, putrid RepubliStink?

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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 05:29 PM
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16. Probably whacked by DAMM (Drunks against Mad Mothers)
From the article:

"He also was the first chief executive of Mothers Against Drunk Driving."
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 02:14 AM
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23. He secretly kept one of the "hanging chads" and was going to expose Bush. nt
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:01 PM
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24. Why was Wheeler murdered? What did he know?
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 08:04 PM by Mimosa
Well, there may be one way to 'win' in Afghanistan...

( Be sure to read article AND click on links for further info.)



http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/top-us-official-murdered-after-arkansas-weapons-test-causes-mass-death/

Excerpt:

Wheeler’s military career included writing one of the most important manuals on the effectiveness of biological and chemical weapons which led to his being hired in 2009 as a consultant to the Mitre Corporation, whose aviation system development department, the GRU reports, is at the forefront of creating the computer command and control systems used by the US Air Force in their fleet of aerial spraying planes.

These aerial spraying planes, this report continues, are based at the Little Rock Air Force Base in Arkansas that over the past few months have been involved with ‘test dispersants’ of poisonous gasses in the Afghanistan War Theater using chemical weapons stocks obtained from Iraq and held at the Pine Bluff Arsenal, also located in Arkansas.

Important to note about the Pine Bluff Arsenal, which calls itself “America’s Arsenal”, is that it is one of the World’s most specialized munitions and chemical-biological defense products and services bases which Russia had previously accused of not fully reporting the chemical agents removed from Iraq, between 2003 and 2008, and taken to the US for testing and subsequent destruction.

According to this report, the US relocated from Iraq to the Pine Bluff Arsenal an estimated 63,000 metric tonnes of the poisonous gas Phosgene that is described as one of the most feared chemical weapons ever used due to its ability to literally cause the lungs and respiratory system to explode.

Nearly immediately after Russia accused the US this past summer of not fully destroying Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stockpile the Pine Bluff Arsenal began an ‘accelerated’ disposal programme injecting it deep into the ground in centralArkansas, but which, unfortunately, since this past September, has caused over 500 minor earthquakes to occur raising the concerns of their local population.

More frightening, however, is the claim made in this report that the Americans have also begun shipping ‘massive quantities’ of Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stocks to Afghanistan where when used they will be able to say they had nothing to do with it, and believe no one will be able to prove it either.
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