IMF Chief Strauss-Kahn Caught In " HONEY TRAP "

[Segami]

:smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

".....Strauss-Kahn had set out on a "kinder and gentler" path, one that would not force foreign leaders to privatize their state-owned industries or crush their labor unions. Naturally, his actions were not warmly received by the bankers and corporatists who look to the IMF to provide legitimacy to their ongoing plunder of the rest of the world. These are the people who think that the current policies are "just fine" because they produce the results they're looking for, which is bigger profits for themselves and deeper poverty for everyone else...."



ICH:

" I have no way of knowing whether the 32-year-old maid who claims she was attacked and forced to perform oral sex on IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, is telling the truth or not. I'll leave that to the braying hounds in the media who have already assumed the role of judge, jury and Lord High Executioner. But I will say, the whole matter smells rather fishy, just like the Eliot Spitzer story smelled fishy. Spitzer, you may recall, was Wall Street's biggest adversary and a likely candidate to head the SEC, a position at which he would have excelled. In fact, there's no doubt in my mind that if Spitzer had been appointed to lead the SEC, most of the top investment bankers on Wall Street would presently be making license plates and rope-soled shoes at the federal penitentiary. So, there was plenty of reason to shadow Spitzer's every move and see what bit of dirt could be dug up on him. As it turns out, the ex-Governor of New York made it easy for his enemies by engaging a high-priced hooker named Ashley Dupre for sex at the Mayflower Hotel. When the news broke, the media descended on Spitzer like a swarm of locusts poring over every salacious detail with the ebullient fervor of a randy 6th-grader. Meanwhile, the crooks on Wall Street were able to breathe a sigh of relief and get back to doing what they do best; fleecing investors and cheating people out of the life savings.



Strauss-Kahn had enemies in high places, too, which is why this whole matter stinks to high-Heaven. First of all, Strauss-Kahn was the likely candidate of the French Socialist Party who would have faced Sarkozy in the upcoming presidential elections. The IMF chief clearly had a leg-up on Sarkozy who has been battered by a number of personal scandals and plunging approval ratings.



But if Strauss-Kahn was set up, then it was probably by members of the western bank coalition, that shadowy group of self-serving swine whose policies have kept the greater body of humanity in varying state of poverty and desperation for the last two centuries. Strauss-Kahn had recently broke-free from the "party line" and was changing the direction of the IMF. His road to Damascus conversion was championed by progressive economist Joesph Stiglitz in a recent article titled "The IMF's Switch in Time".

Here's an excerpt:




cont'


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28103.htm#idc-cover



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[Arctic Dave]

1. This is my opinion of the story.

I guess I will wait for the story to unfold.



Sounds like another wikileaks type of discredit attempt.

[Segami]

4. It will be interesting to see if IMF's replacement number 2 guy, John Lipsky,

former Vice Chairman of the JPMorgan Investment Bank will continue with Strauss-Kahn's IMF changes and direction.

[Distant Observer]

15. Can't replace DSK easily. He was a major ideological force on the global stage.

[blondeatlast]

24. How so? What was he doing for "the people"? What did you know of him before

Sunday?

[Distant Observer]

44. He had reversed IMF policy of forcing devaluations and deep social spend cuts as lending conditions

in developing countries.

[blondeatlast]

50. Golly, whatta guy. Anything more? He's such a hero to the people

it seems he must have really scared the bankers, yes?

[calimary]

47. That's what many suspected happened to Elliot Spitzer, to take him down before

he could continue taking the banksters down.

[TorchTheWitch]

97. Spitzer was also guilty and had been for years

If he was "taken down" it was only by taking advantage of what he was guilty of. He was not somehow "set up" with hookers.

[SidDithers]

2. Maybe he's just a scumbag pig who mistreats women...nt

Sid

[pnwmom]

3. But he was about to leave the IMF to run for President in France.

So what would the point have been?

And, if this was done by some French political opponent, why wouldn't they have waited to see if he won the French political primary?

This theory has some major holes.

[blondeatlast]

5. Limousine socialists are still limousine socialists. The Sofitel Manhattan starts at

$850 a night for a 350 sq. foot studio. A real "man of the people" he is.

[leftynyc]

18. No, it doesn't

It took me all of 20 seconds to log onto their site and look at the rates for a room next Monday night. It aint cheap but nothing is in Manhattan - $455. Now perhaps you can blame the people who approve his expense reports. I was willing to give him the benefit until his story went from "I wasn't there" to "it was consensual". The man is a pig.

[JuniperLea]

29. I book hotels in Manhattan, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Houston...

Several times a month, and a rate is a moving target. A room that is $280 today could be $450 next week, and a $450 could be $795 the next week.

Yeah, the story changing bit points to a liar, no question.

Some men in powerful places do really strange things... I think the power goes to their heads. Plural intended.

[reorg]

64. the story is daily being changed by the NYP and consorts

but there is nothing contradictory in stating

A) the suspect had an alibi for 1 p.m (the time the incident had been reported to have taken place) and B) there was no forced sex.

Posters using these statements to construe two different "defense strategies" are showing their real colors. Ready to believe apocryphal statements from anonymous sources, brought up in a prime example of the Rupert Murdoch gutter press to boot, they are obviously pushing an agenda. Not a pretty sight to behold.

[JuniperLea]

68. The alibi becomes a lie...

When the story changes to consensual, so your B) is swallowed up in the lie that is A). Both statements are contradictory to the other.

[reorg]

70. the story as reported by the NYP

is contradictory, no doubt.

The statements, alleged or documented, by the defense are not.

If I am accused of robbing my neighbor yesterday at 6 p.m. and can show that I have an alibi for that time, of course my defense will mention it. If the accusation suddenly changes to robbing my neighbor at 4 p.m - when I was at home but had just an argument with my neighbor instead of robbing him - my defense will change their statements accordingly. There is no contradiction and there is nothing suspicious about the change.

[seabeyond]

71. the first report was a spokesman saying he thinks it was about.... 1 pm.

if you actually take a statement like that as fact, you fail law school

the criminal and court records show "about" 12 pm

[reorg]

77. the time of 1 p.m. was reported in the New York Times n/t

[JuniperLea]

72. You missed your calling...

PR firms of the non-moral compass variety need that kind of spin.

That isn't how it went down; your analogy is false.

[reorg]

78. it doesn't take much to recognize the NYP is worthless

but thanks anyway for not trying to refute the substance of my point. Which would indeed take some major effort at spin, I fully realize that.

[seabeyond]

79. sexual attack was thought to have occurred around 1:00 PM

is what the man said.... if you take this to the bank as a difinite statement of fact, you fail

he then later corrected to closer to 12.

the criminal and court reports give the time.

this is not like.... massive conspiracy.

and to go from, it didnt happen, to consent says it all.

but then you would rather focus on a spokeman giving the wrong time initially

[reorg]

88. but apparently it wasn't

So what is wrong about stating that at this point in time the accused was busy elsewhere and can prove it?

Can you cite a credible source with statements by the defense that the accused did not encounter the maid at all? And that they now say there was some kind of consensual sexual act between the accused and the accuser?

Clearly this is what is being implied here. If only by some gutter journalists and those who eagerly follow their every word.

Links, please, if that is what you contend.

[leftynyc]

81. I was speaking specifically about

the Sofitel. I went on their site and easily debunked the prior poster's claim. Yes, NYC hotel prices are not only outrageous but also dependent on the time of year, holiday schedules, is the UN in town? Literally a thousand things can effect prices on hotels...but they're never cheap.

[snagglepuss]

6. Bullsh*t theory. His lawyers are now claiming consexual sex.

[blondeatlast]

8. But wait, last night he had an alibi--what happened to that?

As if I can't guess...

[seabeyond]

11. poof*** it disappeared as in

evidence, lol

[msanthrope]

35. Security tape---and his run for the airport---

Here's what's funny--he booked into the Sofitel for two nights. This happened after the first night....

So he has lunch with daughter and then just gets on a plane to France??? Wonder when that reservation was made...

[blondeatlast]

53. Booked for 2 nights? And left in a hurry, lunch with the kid or not--

interesting, to say the least.

[msanthrope]

56. According to the Post article, it was a 2-night booking, his card key found on him at arrest.

Along with 300 cash.

The dude lives in D.C., FYI...

[snagglepuss]

94. I hadn't heard that he booked for two nights but stayed only one. The guy has a

history of serious sexual misconduct. He has brought this on himself. That people are ready to accuse the victim instead of this arrogent leacherous misogynist beggars belief.

[JI7]

91. i didn't believe the alibi story when it came out

because it was something they could have checked when they first investigated and if they could confirm it i don't think it would have reached this point.

[Hannah Bell]

74. no, "anonymous" is.

[seabeyond]

7. had to be set up. couldnt be a forever history of this abuse and good ole boys and media chuckle

joke, turn their heads, wink at the abuse allowing this man to feel oh so privilege that assaulting a woman is just

no
big
deal

[sufrommich]

9. These types of OPs a truly sickening. nt

[Distant Observer]

10. The Literal Charge -- Unwanted Grabbing, Attempted oral sexual contact -- is believable. HOW is ??

It is really very confusing how many coincidences came together to allow the criminal actions within context and the time frame available.

Someone preparing to have lunch with daughter, decides to engage in forced sexual assault in 20 minutes, calmly pays and checks out and goes to lunch. BIZARRE to say the least.

[seabeyond]

14. right. boggles the mind a man that has done this consistently in the past would do it again

just

who would have thought

the possibility there

that the man would continue to feel privileged to abuse women after never learning a lesson it is wrong, it is not his right, it is not ok.

[Distant Observer]

26. I am confused. I guess you were there so you have the whole truth of the matter.

Fareed Zakaria said he was shocked and would not have imagined it. I guess he is also an idiot like the rest of us who have questions as to how such bizarre criminal actions could be carried out by DSK in that context.

[seabeyond]

28. *gasp* shocked. the man got warning from pres not to behave in u.s.

like he does in france. shocked i tell you. media was aware of the great seducer even with force. shocked i tell you



2007: After he IMF managing director in 2007, Jean Quatremer, a journalist at Libération, wrote: "The only real problem for Strauss-Kahn, is his relation to women. Too forward, he often brushes with harassment. It is a problem known to the media but that nobody talks about (we are in France)."



"Like all great political animals, he has trouble controlling himself." The French press quote President Nicolas Sarkozy as warning Mr Strauss-Kahn before his Washington appointment, saying: "You know, over there they don't joke about this sort of thing. Your life will be passed under a magnifying glass. Avoid taking the lift alone with interns. France cannot permit a scandal."



everyone is shocked

surprise

[Hannah Bell]

73. quotes sarkozy as warning him! oh, that's rich.

sarkozy's people first to break the story.

sarkozy "warned" him before he went to us (though he's been to us many times)

sarkozy = his political opponent

[seabeyond]

75. ya... like they all didnt know this man assaulted women.... what an ass to do it in u.s. after

specifically told u.s. such prudes they dont cotton to rapin their women

a real hoot hannah.

just has me in stitches

[Myrina]

38. the point is that they are 'allowed' to repeat and get away with it ...

... until someone(s) decides to remove/replace them, then 'charges' are suddenly levied. Just like with Spitzer.

The good ol' boys club protects you until you are a threat to it, and apparently they thought DSK had become one.


:shrug:

[seabeyond]

52. or maybe assaulting a woman in the u.s. and her calling cops actually resulted in arrest

just throwing out the really out there, tinfoil type connspiracy.

[msanthrope]

63. He didn't check out....

He was in the middle of a two-day stay and when he was caught at the airport, he still had his electronic key card on him. This article has lots of details--




The detectives said he didn't have any obvious scratches or bruising. But he had $300 in cash and his hotel-room electronic swipe key, sources said.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/seduced_and_she_said_oui_oui_Oj0Z4K8iFIheZa4gvTBUWN#ixzz1MdLRbzXW

[maxsolomon]

12. Spitzer, Assange, Strauss-Kahn

ad hominem

[onenote]

32. or maybe assholes

[snagglepuss]

95. What Spitzer and Assange did doesn't come close to DSK.

Spitzer and Assange had consensual sex, they didn't effing rape anyone. Of course Sweden claims what Assange was rape but no other jurisdiction in the world uses their definition of rape.

[maxsolomon]

100. this seems to be an effective way to eliminate a political foe

hoist by his own petard or not.

and assange is accused of 2 rapes. i recognize that it's 'swedish' rape, but in the popular, inch-deep media, rape is rape, so the wikileaks material is discredited by association.

which was the goal, as it was for spitzer's scandal.

the end game of the strauss-kahn allegations are unknown.

[muriel_volestrangler]

13. What a hypocritical opinion piece

"I have no way of knowing whether the 32-year-old maid who claims she was attacked and forced to perform oral sex on IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, is telling the truth or not. I'll leave that to the braying hounds in the media who have already assumed the role of judge, jury and Lord High Executioner. But I will say, the whole matter smells rather fishy..."

And, after increasing certainty of the 'fishiness' of it through the piece, by the end of it he's got to

"he was set up and then crushed like a bug".

So he'll be judge, jury and LHE on the maid, instead. :eyes:

[blondeatlast]

22. Kinda sad when the biggest defense for the limousine "socialist"

is to impeach a hotel maid who had the audacity to speak up...

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. So now SEXUAL ASSAULT becomes

a trap?

Who knew?

No wonder victims avoid going to the authorities.

[seabeyond]

19. not just any trap, but a honey trap. have to add on the sexism to the vomit misogynism. nt

[sufrommich]

23. But it's OK to reduce a woman to "honey trap" if she gets

in the way of big time movers and shakers.

[seabeyond]

27. not to mention giggle and chuckle and jab elbow in ribs, and wink.... nt

[DevonRex]

59. It reminds me of a Venus fly trap. That honey trap reached out and swallowed

his penis. That poor man! :sarcasm:

[seabeyond]

61. wow, right on. nt

[closeupready]

84. Bingo.

What a disgusting spin to this story. :mad:

[Hannah Bell]

93. they didn't just make up the phrase, you know. it's quite old. and doesn't

refer to any particular sex/gender. i.e. it's not "sexist' -- lol.

it was coined in the world of espionage.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/03/12/the_history_of_the_honey_trap.

[sarge43]

34. As we know women force men to force sexual assault upon them.

:sarcasm: just in case

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. And of course, (It is comming) men who are naked

cannot help themselves.

Of course :sarcasm: as well

[seabeyond]

54. that is a given. man naked, must stick penis in a hole. nt

[closeupready]

85. That is seriously the rationale behind why women need to wear burkas in

places in the ME. It would be comical if there weren't real people being beaten and executed for failing to fulfill that female responsibility.

[OKDem08]

17. the high profile, seemingly staged for media

perp walk made me think there is something more to this story as well

[seabeyond]

21. a rich white male is pulled off a plane for assaulting a nobody maid. and you find the media

storm odd?

[karynnj]

20. Wait until more facts come out before assuming that the rather powerless woman was part of a trap

Your "case" rests entirely on the good you see him doing in his job. People are complex and it is possible that his values, as regards international finance are completely commendable, but his actions towards this woman were dishonorable. On the other hand, he has not yet been proven guilty and there was talk of an alibi. It is far too early to think that we know the full story.

It is a huge error in logic to assume that people whose political views we like are exemplary people in all regards. I do not need to repeat the list of BOTH Democratic and Republican candidates who have done some pretty unsavory things in their private lives. We all know that list by heart. On both sides, people who trusted them were likely at first defensive, then hurt by their disappointment because they did not live up partisan's expectations for them (or to the image they worked hard to craft.

Here, what we should want is that this be dealt with as expeditiously as possible. If he has an alibi and is innocent, this needs to ended ASAP - and even then it might already have destroyed his Presidential chances. If he did what he alleged to have done, our sympathies should be with the maid - as she, not he, would then be the victim.

[seabeyond]

25. his alibi has shifted to "she consented" in the forced assault. nt

[Distant Observer]

30. Are you the investigator. HE DID NOT CLAIM AN ALIBI. NOT CLAIM CONSCENT. These are rumors

What is know about DSK is his long history in the finance and political world and his reputation as a seducer.

We have not heard any statement from him.

[seabeyond]

33. nope. his lawyer said. and then his lawyer said. i n print. but keep on keepin on defending the

pig

just a woman

and not much of a woman as it is.

just cleaned up after people

she doesnt matter

but he does. dont we know

[Distant Observer]

37. I can only assume you have better sources than the rest of us, the uninformed.

[seabeyond]

55. it does not matter what you receive. you will defend this man, that assaulted a woman

and has assaulted or worse, women in the past.... to the very end.

sad

but a reality

[msanthrope]

60. Here's a quote from his attorney, in court...

France's leading presidential candidate may have pounced on a Manhattan hotel maid -- but she wanted it, his lawyer asserted in court yesterday, hinting at what could be an explosive defense.

"The evidence, we believe, will not be consistent with a forcible encounter," said Ben Brafman, the high-powered lawyer of IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, at the suspect's sensational arraignment in a packed criminal courtroom.

A source close to the defense later told The Post, "There may well have been consent."



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/seduced_and_she_said_oui_oui_Oj0Z4K8iFIheZa4gvTBUWN#ixzz1MdJctqbA


And note something else--he left a two-day booking in the middle, and was later found with his card key still on him, at the airport. Wonder when the Air France booking was made.


The millionaire moneyman had checked into Room 2805-6 a day earlier for a two-day jaunt, which his employer, the International Monetary Fund, said was for "personal business."

SNIP

The detectives said he didn't have any obvious scratches or bruising. But he had $300 in cash and his hotel-room electronic swipe key, sources said.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/seduced_and_she_said_oui_oui_Oj0Z4K8iFIheZa4gvTBUWN#ixzz1MdJnUN24

[suffragette]

80. If he had checked in "a day earlier," wouldn't the day he left be the 2nd day?

[TorchTheWitch]

98. hotel rooms are booked according how many nights you will occupy the room

If his booking was for "2 days" it meant it was intended that he spend two nights in the room checking out in the morning after the second night.

He left without checking out after only spending the first night in the room and had his hotel electronic keycard for his room on his person when arrested just before his plane was to take off for France and having left his cell phone in the hotel room.

[suffragette]

99. The NY Post article says he "had checked into Room 2805-6 a day earlier for a two-day jaunt"

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/seduced_and_she_said_oui_oui_Oj0Z4K8iFIheZa4gvTBUWN/1
The millionaire moneyman had checked into Room 2805-6 a day earlier for a two-day jaunt, which his employer, the International Monetary Fund, said was for "personal business.

There is nothing there saying that he had "booked" a room for 2 nights. I read that as indicating he booked one night at the room for a two day visit (jaunt), though given the writing in the Post I can understand why a quick reading would make someone think otherwise.

As to the checkout, Reuters and AFP are stating he did check out:
1) Reuters timeline:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/17/strausskahn-timeline-idUSN1628497620110517
SATURDAY, 12:28 p.m. - Strauss-Kahn checked out of the Sofitel hotel, the law enforcement source said.

2) AFP report via Le Point
http://www.lepoint.fr/politique/dominique-strauss-kahn-a-signale-son-depart-avant-de-quitter-le-sofitel-16-05-2011-1331252_20.php

Dominique Strauss-Kahn a effectué les formalités pour quitter sa chambre du Sofitel de New York entre 12 h 28 et 12 h 38, alors que la femme de ménage qui l'accuse y était entrée vers midi samedi, a indiqué lundi à l'AFP une source au sein du groupe hôtelier Accor. "La femme de ménage est entrée dans la chambre autour de midi. Et il a fait son check-out entre 12 h 28 et 12 h 38", heure locale, selon cette source qui a requis l'anonymat.

Cette personne a précisé qu'une fois le check-out fait, il était impossible de regagner la chambre, la carte d'accès étant démagnétisée. Selon elle, Dominique Strauss-Kahn s'est rendu six fois en dix-huit mois dans l'établissement new-yorkais, dont cinq fois en 2010. C'était son premier séjour cette année. Initialement, il n'était pas prévu qu'il occupe cette suite, mais il a bénéficié d'un surclassement, car elle était libre, a précisé la source. Dominique Strauss-Kahn n'était "pas un habitué de cette suite", pas plus que la femme de ménage qui l'accuse n'y était spécifiquement affectée, a-t-on ajouté.



Le groupe Accor, propriétaire des Sofitel, a confirmé que le directeur général du FMI avait signalé son départ à la réception de l'hôtel, mais il a refusé de préciser si DSK était un habitué de cet hôtel et pour combien de temps son séjour était prévu. La femme de chambre est entrée dans la suite de Dominique Strauss-Kahn "pour faire le ménage", a par ailleurs indiqué la direction. La configuration de la suite 2806, dans laquelle a séjourné DSK, "n'est pas très pratique" et peut expliquer "qu'on n'entende pas du tout une employée entrer dans la chambre", a déclaré, pour sa part, à l'AFP Paul Dubrule, cofondateur d'Accor.

Google translate of above:Dominique Strauss-Kahn made the formalities to leave his room at the Sofitel New York between 12 and 12 h 28 h 38, while the maid who accused had entered about noon Saturday, said on Monday AFP a source within the hotel group Accor. "The maid entered the room around noon. And he made his check-out between 12 and 12 h 28 h 38", local time, said the source who requested anonymity.

This person said that once the check-out because it was impossible to return to the room, the access card being demagnetized. According to her, Dominique Strauss-Kahn visited six times in eighteen months in New York establishment, including five times in 2010. It was his first trip this year. Initially, it was not expected to occupy this suite, but it has received an upgrade, because it was free, the source said. Dominique Strauss-Kahn was "not a regular in this series," any more than the maid who accused there was specifically affected, they added.


Accor, which owns the Sofitel, has confirmed that the IMF chief had reported his departure to the hotel reception, but he declined to say whether DSK was a regular at this hotel and for how long his stay was expected. The maid came in after Dominique Strauss-Kahn "to clean", has also indicated the direction. Configuration after 2806, which stayed DSK, "is not very practical" and can explain "we hear not an employee entering the room," he said, for its part, AFP Dubrule, co-founder of Accor.



Of course, except for the very last quote, these (like the Post's) are unnamed sources and, thus, not verifiable. I have since seen other reports indicating he had stayed there before, for example. Still they seem quite consistent on the check-out part.

[Hannah Bell]

76. nope. "anonymous source" said.

[seabeyond]

82. you defended polinski all over the place too, didnt you.

cause i was so opposed to what you were saying, i took note of your name, yet later found myself agreeing with you on other threads, and thought it weird we were so opposed in that case.

he is another rich white male connected to france and you and i are on total opposite sides.

makes me wonder. assault? no. france? rich white guys?

[Hannah Bell]

90. lol, lol.

[Maru Kitteh]

101. Rich white socialists - they are all innocent

Apparently, if you are a rich white socialist, you cannot rape anyone, and if you do, it isn't rape, and if it is, it's not your fault.


There. See? I cleared it up for you.

[seabeyond]

104. ha ha ha. so simple.

yet so foriegn to me.

rape, go to prison. i dont have to twist and turn that way

[blondeatlast]

40. I'll repeat post #24: What was he doing for "the people"? What did you know of him before Sunday?

You claim upthread he was "getting things done". What, specifically, has he done?

all I know of him is that he seems to have sexually assaulted a hotel maid. A powerful wealthy man assaulted a miad. It's happened before.

[snagglepuss]

48. During bail hearing yesterday DSK's lawyer said -

During a bail hearing yesterday Strauss-Khan's lawyer Benjamin Brafman told Manhattan Criminal Court: 'The evidence, we believe, will not be consistent with a forcible encounter' suggesting this could be Strauss-Khan's main line of defence if the case goes to trial.

A source close to the defence later said: 'There may well have been consent,' according to the New York Post.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1388009/IMF-chief-Dominique-Strauss-Kahns-defence-lawyers-claim-NYC-hotel-maid-said-oui.html#ixzz1MdI0KOme

[karynnj]

67. That sounds pretty damning to me - he seems guilty as hell

It also makes the conspiracy theories that looked extremely contrived before look even more implausible.

[WinkyDink]

31. Not a set-up.

[FSogol]

36. Unrec. This wasn't about his politics. n/t

[blindpig]

39. Ridiculous

This clown is the head of the IMF. The banks conspire against him, what a laugh.

As for his French Socialist Party cred, the French Socialist Party is a sham, a hair to the left of the US Democratic Party which ain't saying much at all. This party is a sellout to Capitalism, how else could their main man head the IMF?

The IMF working against the banks, how absurd.

[Odin2005]

41. Sick, sexist, victim-blaming BS!

People calling a RAPE VICTIM a liar. How FUCKING PREDICTABLE!

:puke:

[Maru Kitteh]

102. + a brazillion.

[DefenseLawyer]

42. No one ever just lets the case play out.

There is the "anyone accused of a sex crime is obviously a guilty scumbag" camp and the "it's a set-up" camp. The opinions are formed based on one's agenda, not on the facts. The fact is not every accusation of sexual assault is true, and those in the first camp should understand that acknowledging that fact won't get your "I care about victims" card taken away from you. Conversely, even people you like fuck up, and you can't cry "set up" just because you like the guy's politics. Deep breaths all around and let the case proceed, see all the facts and then form an opinion.

[Matt_in_STL]

69. I can easily see reasons for a rush to judgment

However, I think people tend to forget that rushing into judgment is not always the best way to go. There were a lot of heated discussions and accusations made in the beginning of the Duke Lacrosse debacle and look how that went. Yes, based on media reporting in this case he looks quite guilty, but I think I will wait until someone pulls out actual evidence and not media hype before rushing out to hang someone.

Also, when did we start counting on the media to give us any correct narrative so early in a developing story?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

45. Steeeeaaammming horseshit.

[AngryAmish]

83. agreed

[cali]

46. I gotta say, I find the term "honey trap", incredibly offensive on multiple levels

and I give ZERO FUCKING CREDENCE to anyone who uses it. fuck the author.

[seabeyond]

57. of course it is. throw a little sexism on the already misogynism. nt

[closeupready]

87. +1.

nt

[Maru Kitteh]

103. sideways - and those who defend this claptrap as well.

[dionysus]

49. is this guy today's Sweet Baby Jesus who got "framed" by "the man"?

:rofl:

[aquart]

51. Yes, yes, yes. But Eliot really was hiring prostitutes.

(Which I still think should have been his business since no one was under age.) Eliot thought he was protected by the VIP code that protects the rich and powerful but he forgot that it doesn't work if he goes up against the rich and powerful.

Sex was this guy's weakness. THE CRIME WAS WEIRD. Seriously weird. Which is why I asked a LOT of questions.

Is this just a spectacular break for the right wing or something much more thoroughly planned?

Did they do a rape kit? What are the results?

[Distant Observer]

58. ElBaradei calls for international investigation on Bush administration’s war on Iraq

In these crimes and criminals, we already have substantial body of evidence -- in contrast to the DSK crime.

http://nationalsecurityzone.org/site/elbaradei-calls-for-international-investigation-on-bush-administration%E2%80%99s-war-on-iraq/

[seabeyond]

62. no. PRESUMED INNOCENTS. how dare you suggest a CRIME without him standing

in court and being CONVICTED OF A CRIME.

SHAME on YOU. and ALL you LECTURE on this ISSUE

[Distant Observer]

66. Who is the Named Defendant? I did not name anyone, ElBaradei suggests crimes occured

[reorg]

65. the funny thing is

that he who "was changing the direction of the IMF" is now identified with what he wanted to get rid off. Serves two purposes at once: provide a sacrifical lamb the simple minds can get all worked up about and reverse his changes quietly without those dupes noticing.

I'm curious, too, if this will be how things play out.

[rucky]

86. I know the perfect way to thwart a Honey Trap

keep it in yer pants.

[blondeatlast]

89. Impossible.

Or so I've been told.

:thumbsup:

[Nye Bevan]

92. So a lowly hotel maid is a pawn of the "Western banking coalition".

And Spitzer was somehow brainwashed into hiring hookers.

Okayyyyyyy.........

[joshcryer]

96. Welcome to the new age Trotskyites.