I was not deceived, I paid attention .............

[uponit7771]

I KNEW Obama was an imperfect man coming into an impossible situation facing a hate filled bunch of people, a good number of them not liking him because the skin that was determined to be placed on his bones without his consent.

I also know what the Obama promise meter says (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/) and I wont be deceived by the loud mouths and pissed off who constantly blinded by one or many of life's narrowing blinders.


There's a good man runnin thangs, good...............not perfect or even great.................good, for me that's all he needs to be right now.


Regards.


PS - 87% of liberal democrats aren't deceived either...

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[Blue-Jay]

14. Did you vote for a wizard?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. I voted for the most progressive, anti-war, candidate on the ballot.

Didn't hurt a bit and didn't require wear and tear on my nose.

[MrDiaz]

18. ANTI-WAR

Are you kidding?

[AtomicKitten]

29. He was anti dumb war.

This video includes the few seconds of his 2002 speech and the rest delivered by supporters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUV69LZbCNQ

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. And, then he escalated a monumentally dumb war. Just like he said he would.

[AtomicKitten]

32. He was referring to Iraq as the "dumb war." He always said he would accelerate in Afghanistan.

President Obama is doing exactly what Candidate Obama said he would do regarding Afghanistan and going after bin Laden, both specifically in response to 9-11.

I do agree it's time to get out of the ME altogether.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

34. And, I believed him. Which is why he didn't get my vote.

[NeedleCast]

2. Good Post

You'll end up with 0 recommenends, but you get a K&R from me.

[uponit7771]

7. Thx, West obviously holds a personal grudge against Obama...

[Dawgs]

3. Wasn't deceived, but didn't realize he'd be this bad.

Can't blame the Republicans for picking wall street/lobbyists/CEO's for his administration. That's all on him.

[uponit7771]

6. So you just didn't pay attention?...Regards

[hfojvt]

4. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZr0_ic1304

[seabeyond]

5. i agree. i heard the corporate in the man when he ran. not surprised

the choices he has made. dont always agree with them. would like different on some stuff. but not deceived either.

[CTyankee]

8. I've learned as an old liberal, that I will never be completely happy with any Dem president.

I am far too liberal. However, Obama is far better than what we had or would have with a republican. So I can't have it all? So what? That's just like. I can still fight for what I believe in and I will.

I don't know why some people think they will ever find their perfect candidate. They don't exist.

[seabeyond]

9. ya. agree. i really really felt it important to charge bush and cheney though

that is probably my greatest disappointment.

[CTyankee]

11. With Clinton for me it was DADT, DOMA and Rwanda.

It's good to see now that Clinton himself realizes that all three were mistakes.

With Obama, my biggest disappointment has been not considering single payer or really pushing for the public option and pushing back hard on Lieberman. I think he could have done more. However, I hope this health care reform effort will have another act to follow. I'll just wait this out...

[mmonk]

10. I was deceived and I did pay attention.

He signed the American Freedom campaign's pledge which was as follows:

"We are Americans, and in our America we do not torture, we do not imprison people without charge or legal remedy, we do not tap people's phones and emails without a court order, and above all we do not give any President unchecked power.

"I pledge to fight to protect and defend the Constitution from attack by any President."

He said he was for a public option. We did not receive one nor did he push it.

He was not originally for a health insurance mandate.

He said he was against extending the Bush Tax Cuts and then struck a deal extending them.

He did not claim to want to proceed with more domestic offshore oil drilling.

There are many more examples but it isn't all us not paying attention.

[dflprincess]

28. +1

[Romulox]

12. Re: "87% of liberal democrats".

I've seen the most right-wing of DUers made a point of labeling themselves "liberals" and "progressives". I don't think the self identification is meaningful. :shrug:

[JoePhilly]

21. So who gets to pick who the "real liberals" are?

[TheWraith]

13. Kicked and recommended!

Even though the truth is rather unpopular here.

[Raffi Ella]

16. K&R.

Yes, he could be better on a lotta things but the bashing of President Obama is way WAY over the top around here lately.

[demwing]

17. You call them "narrowing blinders" - others call them "facts"

and it is inconvenient how the facts get in the way of seeing what you want to see.

For instance, the "Obama promise meter" that you linked to lists 7 promises made by Obama, and only 1 kept. Sadly, closing Gitmo, ending the Bush tax cuts for billionaires, and securing a Public Option didn't make the list.

So that's 1 in 10 for promises kept.

...1 in 10...

Good grief....

[uponit7771]

22. Facts out of context or perspective CAN be blinding, we both can agree on that no?

[Bucky]

19. You had me until "runnin thangs." I hate that poser shit. But on substance you're right.

I agree the president is a pragmatic guy more interested in maintaining the empire and making life easier for the middle class. I expected as much from him and am getting an only slightly less ballsy version of what I voted for. He's never "sold us out", despite being entirely too nice and too accommodating to the Republicans at times. He's done his job okay. I'm grateful he's there.

Still... "runnin thangs"? Pu-lease.

[uponit7771]

23. How am I 'posing' in this case? regards

[dionysus]

20. K&R

[proud patriot]

24. kick rec and shared

[slay]

25. I don't buy this 87% support stat people are throwing around without siting a current source

and i don't think Obama is even CLOSE to a good president at all. yes republicans are worse, but at some point we'll either have to stop voting for the lesser of two evils - or destroy the planet.

[joeybee12]

31. I agree...and I will also say that the people I know who will probably vote for him...

will not do so with any enthusiasm. They're not impressed.

[bvar22]

26. I paid attention too,

and voted for the guy who...

*said when he became President, EFCA (Employee Free Choice Act) would become the "Law of the Land."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNVIQqatyU
:shrug:

*said he would put on comfortable shoes and walk the line with LABOR.
(This is the same guy who endorsed virulently Anti-LABOR/Anti-HealthCare Blanche Lincoln, sent the Old Dog to Arkasas to campaign for her in the Primary OVER a solid Pro-LABOR Democrat.
:shrug:

*said that he would renegotiate NAFTA
:shrug:

*said "everyone" would have a seat at his table,
and then shut out the Democratic Wing in his cabinet
The DLC New Team
Progressives Need NOT Apply

(Screen Capped from the DLC Website)
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=254886&kaid=86&subid=85

...and shut out the Democratic Medicare for All Wing from the Health Care Reform "debate".
:shrug:

*ridiculed Hillary during the debates for supporting MANDATES to BUY Health Insurance,
and explained in detail why MANDATES were BAD for Working Americans.
:shrug:

*ran on a Public Option
:shrug:

*ridiculed McCain's "Cadillac Tax"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wmN3wvhNM&feature=player_embedded
:shrug:

*said he would not renew the Bush Tax Cuts
:shrug:

*said he would restore America's Moral High Ground lost during the War on Terror
(Close Gitmo, say NO to renditions, restore Habeus Corpus, say NO to Warrentless WireTaps, etc)
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah
:shrug:

I could go on,
but you get the point,
I DID pay attention.

[liberallunatic]

27. 87% of Liberals need to see Inside Job or maybe read

Griftopia.

[slay]

33. +1

i think that stat is bogus anyways. even so - some people i would never call "liberal" consider themselves that. but yes, you are right - EVERYONE should see Inside Job. i have not read Griftopia but will check it out.

[bhikkhu]

35. Thanks! Pretty much every OBAMA LIED! headline should be -

an "Obama was unable to get ______ legislation pushed through congress" headline.

What he has been able to push through, given the circumstances, has been pretty impressive.

[Angry Dragon]

36. Transparency .............. anyone seen it lately??

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: