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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:21 PM Original message |
France is outraged by IMF chief's 'perp walk'. Perp walks illegal in France. |
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Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. If the perps are allowed to do a little strut and dance, would that be better? Silly Frenchies! |
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Ed Suspicious (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I keep thinking about CripWalk everytime I read perp walk. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. Boo hoo, France. Tough. Your attitudes about mistresses and |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. News flash, women cheat too. And I'd wager more American men cheat than French. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. it doesnt hurt when people and media are aware and dismiss with "lady man" and "the great seducer" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. i was told by a french man today, screwin around on mates is what make the french oh so sexually |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
92. I think a trial before the naked chain dragging would be best. nt |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Du sounds more and more like FR every day. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. A lot of French are |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. we are not sttin on jury, and that is where he get innocent before guilty. tell me |
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peace4ever (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. thats besides the point, the op just made a hateful comment against a whole group of people |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. no, that is exactly the point and if you smell "conviction" before the trial it is the info we |
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peace4ever (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. shouting hateful expletives at all french people is the point? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. i am tired, i am done i was talking about your comment innocent before proven guilty. nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. So is bush not guilty of war crimes? |
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peace4ever (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. wtf does the chimp got to do with this? his crimes are well known and in the public domain |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. no. so you want both ways. both crimes we have information |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. DSK forced a maid to suck his dick, THAT'S what happened. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. actually, that didn't happen. according to the court filing. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. I'm going by what the maid said. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. the court filing *is* what the maid said. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. You have no idea how criminal proceedings work. He forced her to have oral sex. Read this: |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 02:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
87. Maybe you should read the actual ruling. The two criminal assault charges are due to dick to mouth.. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #87 |
101. The lips are part of the mouth; everyone says the mouth is a feature of the face |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #42 |
98. Have you met the victim? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. France is a country, it doesn't really feel anything. I'm sure |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
96. But there are overall attitudes. A shared world view. An Ethos. It may not apply to all individuals. |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. Daily News and Post said cops didn't know who he was at the time of the arrest. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. Sometimes in life you are the pigeon, other times the statue. It is a |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. Fuck 'em. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. They do that quite well |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
91. I know. n/t |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. The victim can't even leave her house, or go to work. That's where my sympathy goes. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. yes. where is their OUTRAGE for her. she, too, was clueless how important this man was |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Mine, too. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
44. Word. nt |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
60. I believe her name is being published there, too. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
63. M. DKS probably has more peace tonight at Riker's in protective custody |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree that this is not what you should show everywhere when |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. in France your are LEGALLY GUILTY unless YOU can prove your innocence, oui? nt |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. No, France has presumption of innocence. nt |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Napoleonic Code |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. Meh. Hysterical media overstatement. Nt |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Nailed it with three words.. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. yes they are. i read on cnn. no concern for victim or his alleged act of violence |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
17. And....no one here gives a hoot. |
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razorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. Perp walks are illegal in France, huh? Well, rape is illegal here, dude. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 02:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
86. No, only publishing photos of the perp walk is illegal |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #86 |
102. We can argue that the published pictures prejudice the trial |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
21. Don't worry. Won't be long before Americans will find themselves getting rougher treatment |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. Like Amanda Knox? |
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proverbialwisdom (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
24. Worthwhile reading quoting Joseph Stiglitz on Strauss-Kahn prior to incident. |
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peace4ever (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. thanks for sharing - interesting read |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. I don't care if the guy invented the cure for cancer while developing |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. If someone "invented the cure for cancer or a car that runs on water"... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. That is understandable since they have a law "innocent until proven guilty" and don't want to |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. what about that ole transparency thing we all cheer? i would think allowing |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Do you think everyone arrested for any crime should be shown on the media in handcuffs? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. i never thought about it. i dont think much about this one either. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
81. The court house is a public venue which any citizen may enter. |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
39. And WE are outraged by their media publishing the victim's name ! |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
41. Sacre Bleu! 'ow dare zey? Ee is ze Great Seducer and she is just a maid! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Pepe LePew is aghast! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
45. Sadly, France also differs with us on their ambulance-to-hospital speeds. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
48. It sounds like they have an aversion to reality. |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
49. IMF chief's arrest stirs up anti-Americanism in France |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. "grotesque photographs" |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. Anti-Americanism? In France?! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 03:00 AM Response to Reply #49 |
88. Is rape cool in France? |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
50. I thought New York banned perp walks back in the 90s? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I don't remember that. |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
54. Who is showing the pictures to them? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
56. Monsieur DSK is likely having a FAR mor erestful night in protective custody at Riker's Island |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
57. You know I never really thought about it--but perp walks are kind of disgusting. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
58. Well he should have chosen to rape in France. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
64. Wow, they actually believe you are innocent until proven guilty there? What a concept. Nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. ya... they also believe in outing the victim as they did in the press not long ago. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Y'know, I'd bet dollars to donuts M. Strauss-Kahn is sleeping far more peacefully in Riker's Island |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. yes blonde you are right. and i bet he wont be missing hours in his paycheck he needs to pay bills |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #69 |
94. Yeah they seem to be selective in their outrage |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:42 AM Response to Reply #64 |
78. Nah, their privacy laws are weird, you must give "consent" before you can be publicly reported on. |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
67. he deserves it. and worse. hahahaha |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
71. Kwitcherwhinin Frenchies. At least we're not Mexico. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
72. Should have had him wear an orange jump suit and spit mask.. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
77. It's called transparency. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. You can't have a free press if it's muzzled in public. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Yep. Notice what is banned. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. I believe it's solely intended to protect the upper classes and politicians*. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
83. Perp walks should be illegal here |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Staged walks are unconstitutional. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
85. I'm baffled as to why this is illegal in France |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
89. Tough, don't like it ... then don't commit a crime here! |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 04:01 AM Response to Original message |
90. Another classy classy thread (nt) |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
93. Ok, so insist your citizens stick to committing crimes in your country |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. after all, they feel they have the right to tell women what to wear in their country. nt |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. It is a fun double standard |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #97 |
103. yup. |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
99. I would have preferred a Moon-walk, but we can't always get what we want. |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
100. I don't care if they are upset. Why should they expect him |
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