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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 03:15 AM Original message |
Means testing Social Security is nonsense |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 03:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. Funny that we dont want to introduce means testing but as willing to discuss a max social sec |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 03:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Do a spreadsheet |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 04:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. so what? It would help. |
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66 dmhlt (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 06:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Three reasons NOT to Means Test, & one Alternate Solution |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The cap should be lifted AND the rate lowered. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Remove the cap and lower the rate so that those making $250k pay the same raw amount... |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. I don't see why those making between $106,800 |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Cutting 0.5% of payouts would help? How? n/t |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 04:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yeah but think about how efficiently you could control SS costs by creating a max. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 05:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Agreed |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 06:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. clue: payouts already capped. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Aren't they capped because of the income cap more than anything? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. whatever. this thread is just full of misinformation |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
6. payouts are already capped. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
8. The only way a max would work |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 06:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. wtf? Payouts are capped and COLA'd. |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
11. For someone retiring at 66 today |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Maximum payout of Social Security is $2,366? |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Did you have the max income withheld each of the |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
14. Welfare for the wealthy is nonsense too. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
17. good points and informative thread |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
19. If means testing is instituted ... |
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nobodyspecial (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yep, and therefore easier to gut. |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
20. They means test in Germany. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. If we had a comprehensive social welfare system |
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