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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:24 AM Original message |
If health insurers need to pay out 80% for medical claims and can keep 20% |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. er.... huh? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Let's say the doctors Bill is $100. If the negotiated price is $50, the doctor gets $50 |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. This situation assumes collusion. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. They don't tell you what their u and c charges are. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. They don't tell you, but the money must come from somewhere. |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. You are too funny. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. For sale, going really cheap: |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Quoted from your own post. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. No, actually, saying that does NOT imply it is already in place or will occur. Logic fail. n/t |
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BlueDemKev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. That's true |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Hint, pharmacies charge $10 per months prescription. They charge MUCH more than that to those that h |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. It seems logical that you would want to increase the costs if... |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. how would that benefit the insurance company? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Um which is worth more 20% of $100 or 20% of $200. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. The latter, of course. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Well that is the reason it benefits an insurance company. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. This is such an over simplification. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Your right it is 25% of the cost. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. "Isn't the incentive to inflate costs?" |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. They Will Use It As An Excuse To Jack Thir Premiums, Sir, Certainly |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. But if this is considered a necessity, won't it be pushed to the point of unaffordability? |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Don't bring reality into the discussion. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You are very right. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. For Most, Sir, It Is Already Unaffordable |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Agreed. It is for me. This year, more so. I'm outta their game. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
7. It will balance out. Of course they will use it as an excuse to raise premiums |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
18. Review of Health Plan Premium Increases |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
23. No, because they don't want their premiums to rise faster than the competition. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
24. State Efforts to Make Health Insurance More Affordable |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
27. I've been certain for a while that what you are describing is what got us where we are today. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. Insurance IS an incentive to inflate costs |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
31. Collusion between the insurance industry and the hospital industry |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. And the fact that we demand the latest in technology/treatment, even if the benefit is very small. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I like thoroughness and due diligence |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
32. I worked for a doctor who did inflate his prices |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Of course, why did y'all wonder why a few of us are hot as a pistol that the cartel's |
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