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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:31 PM Original message |
Why U.S. Journalists Aren’t Standing Up for WikiLeaks |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. What has Assange really done anyway. Mostly just dumped a lot of gossip about personalities. He has |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. How WikiLeaks Enlightened Us in 2010 |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. So the following is just "gossip about personalities"? Perhaps you should read the documents. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. This has eclipsed the Pentagon Papers with just a few percent released already. |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. LOL. You can repeat something over and over again, that doesn't make it true. Maybe YOU think that |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. Zombie Talking Point #2 ("Harmless Gossip") - This bullshit never stops. |
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Whoa_Nelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. They are cowardly and afraid of the government |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Ben Adler repeating zombie lies about wikileaks. n/t |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. Our present day American journalists in the MSM |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. The premise of the article is caca |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. Whatever helps them sleep at night |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. Newsweek helped lie America into illegal wars is why Newsweek doesn't like Assange. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
53. Newsweek (Isikoff) took the helm of the Whitewater "investigation" too |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. WikiLeaks dumped 400,000 Iraq war classified documents in Oct. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. US journalists are puffed up cowards |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
11. How about most journalists don't cause software to be inserted in US government computers? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. You are repeating a charge for which there is zero evidence as truth. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. That's what I think the grand jury in VA is for. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Why do you want Manning and Assange in prison and WikiLeaks shut down? |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Good question! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Lamo's many claims were drilled down last week |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Well, you are missing a few key points in all that.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Manning has so far refused to talk. And the chat logs are the only |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. The excerpts provided by Wired do not support Lamo's claims... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Nonsense |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I am sure that defense will work at Manning's court martial. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. So why do you want Manning and Assange in prison and WikiLeaks shut down? |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. Doesn't seem to be an answer forthcoming |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. There is zero evidence that Manning ever met with Assange. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. But the CIA is very good at "finding" evidence. Perhaps they could manufacture some evidence. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Good non-response there |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. You need tools to transfer electronic files to a server |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. You are misinformed and biased. |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
13. What is passed off as journalist in this country are nothing more than... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. What a load. "Advocacy journalism" is releasing unedited cables??? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. the muckrakers of the past must be rolling in their graves..... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
23. objectivity and nonwaaaaaa? |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. What journalists? There are journalists in America? |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Matt Taibbi. There are a few good ones left. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
58. Yeah and Greg Palast.... |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. I was just about to post the exact same thing |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. "Why U.S. Journalists Aren’t Standing Up for WikiLeaks" |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. MSM Journalists do not stand up for wikileaks |
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fatbuckel (518 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. You are just another tool. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. The very notion of journalistic "objectivity" is itself historically |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Don't forget Michael Hiltzik! He's a good LA Times guy. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
36. They don't want to piss off their buddies. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. You dance with the one that brung ya. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
44. BBI, after thinking about this article, I'm gobsmacked. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. I think he was writing about "mainstream" journalists in the United States and that has so far |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. It's a deliberate reframing to exclude anyone but the presstitutes. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. "What well respected journalist hasn't stood with Wikileaks?" Herbert, and Krugman for starters. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. I can't find anyhing for Bob Herbert. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
46. Why US "journalists" aren't standing up for Wikileaks? Easy: See March 2003... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Yep. That's when I turned off all US cable news for good. I also don't trust the NYT after that. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. there are no more journalists in print or broadcast media any more |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
48. You need tools to transfer electronic files properly |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
52. Because most mainstream U.S. journalists are hacks. nt |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
56. Our little pampered corporate media clowns never miss a chance to pat themselves on the back |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
59. Chris Hedges is right: the 4th estate is completely craven, cowed, captured and corrupted. |
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