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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:12 PM Original message |
Arrest of former IMF boss baffling to French |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. sez one person I never heard of |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Is she wrong then? |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
49. Here's some info |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. the french are more racist/elitist/sexist than us? go us! |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
77. Only because it happened to a French citizen on US soil. If this were a US citizen on French |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. I always thought 'expert says' gets paid for knowing more than me. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. The truth is that the arrest of a rich white man |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. +1 |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. then why are americans not "stunned". i would say, or fabricating excuses for him, but then |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. M$M are clearly stunned or it would not be such a major news event |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. right. a couple people talked about rapture and look what happened this weekend |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. kinda like outing her name and her picture implying she is staying in an AIDS apt and |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Absolute bullshit...Many French people are outraged now that DSK's shenanigans have been exposed |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. i listened to a french journalist yesterday on npr and she mentioned not an iota of "outrage" |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Looking at her background, she does appear to be qualified to speak on the issue. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Bbut, it's so much easier to make blanket generalizations! |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. The article's not about 'outrage,' it's about shock |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
50. apparently if you have enough money and power you don't get |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
54. This is about societal norms and it's hilarious that some DU'ers can't wrap their heads around the |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. European countries aren't entirely paragons of societal virtue. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Oh stop it |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yah, I think assaulting women is a crime in france, but hey, I guess some people don't think so. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. the pressure to keep mouth shut seems to be wide spread and openingly discussed |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Look at post #22, it's appalling! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. it is inspiring, it is awesome, it is hopeful. it is something good coming out of this tragedy. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
15. Or they need another revolution. Didn't they have a rallying cry about |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. French feminists outraged by Strauss-Khan affair plan rally |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Good for them. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. What do you mean? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Why are you bringing up WSWS? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Well, they've been quite defensive of the IMF and its former boss lately. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. So? What's that got to do with the article in the OP? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I was responding to a feminist rally against DSK. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. i dont get |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Personal thing. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. ah.... thanks |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. bOOyAH my SISTAHs... kick some ass. be " angry, disgusted and outraged," |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I didn't believe any of it at first, but then you reminded me of Roman Polanski. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. thank you for being open minded enough to look into it further. and thank you for sharing this |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #34 |
48. You were right Seabeyond |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. it has been a learning event, for sure. nt |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. Obviously, they just hate French people. n/t |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
22. How Dominique Strauss-Kahn's arrest awoke a dormant anger in the heart of France's women |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Wow, those numbers are appalling, granted, it's 60% not reported here... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. "pernicious and ingrained sexism".... yes! only 10% file an official complaint |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. "The US reaffirms the protection of the weakest" - only for those who are completely delusional. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. A Black African Muslim got the head of one of the most powerful orgs indicted. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. yup, and we're in Libya to protect the civilians. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. ridiculous personal attack not even worthy of responding to. Bye. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. mmmm, this maid wont agree with you. nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. That proves it, the French are a bunch of Misogynist PIGS. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Sarcasm? It does indicate a sexual divide and an issue in their culture. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. nah. he has claimed there is an issue in france from the start. he is |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Gotcha, saw his second post about it. 'nite btw. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
46. I found the report, PDF (US ranks 19, 31 in 2007): |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
30. In the US justice system the lowliest chambermaid is as important as a rich prominent bankster. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
38. The French have no right to mock our "puritan sexual mores" anymore. Misogynistic creeps! |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
44. Re: gender gap in France: |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. " not wearing enough clothing, you’re a prostitute.....wearing too much, you’re a Muslim. " |
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athena (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. Indeed. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. Eye-opener is right. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Not sure if you noticed, but I posted the Gender Gap report in #46. Ironically France is 46th... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
58. "talked out of" pressing charges? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It likely would have had not the NY SVU* been so quick to respond. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Just like on Law and Order! |
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athena (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. They are called the Special Victims Squad. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. That's the article I was thinking of. Thanks athena! |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
61. My guess is the French folks whom they refer to are a minority |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. My guess is that you're wrong. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. I've lived with French Expats. I've known Quebec French. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
69. Give me good old fashioned American justice where |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I dunno that you can say it's American justice but you can't deny it's NY justice! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. exactly. perfectly stated, imo.... geek. nt |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
71. They loved Jerry Lewis. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
73. ah, those Latin Lovers. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. that is how i always saw it. nt |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
75. suddenly i see pepe le pew as a ravenous sexual predator |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. he did use a lot of aggressivenes/force. nt |
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