should the US continue to offer education to all?

[ulysses]

[Ohio Joe]

1. Yes - nt

[rgbecker]

2. Why bother, it doesn't seem to be working......

40% believe all the lies on Fox news.





:sarcasm:

[freshwest]

5. The great teacher, the one-eyed monster in the living room. Sigh.

But it's either offer a public education or toss more grenades in the playing field to make sure some people never advance above the level of slaves.

Which is what privatization does, high tuition and defunding education does. We will never get back on our feet in technology and manufacturing or even administering at this rate.

[elleng]

3. The U.S. does NOT offer education to all,

the STATES do.

[ulysses]

4. the states aren't the US?

Collectively, anyway.

[liberal N proud]

6. That would really be completing the transformation to a third world nation

Who is going to decide who will be excluded?

[prairierose]

7. Once privatization is completed....

the deciding factor will be money.

[pitohui]

8. i wasn't aware that we did offer education to all

we offer education to those who are willing to take on a huge debt burden

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. K-12 education is free to students

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. So, just because YOU have a child who will be in kindergarten soon

you expect the rest of us whose kids have finished school to pay taxes for YOUR child to go to school?

It will be an honor. :hi:

[ulysses]

11. :like:

:hi:

[Igel]

12. The states should.

But it should be revised.

The one-size-fits-all curriculum needs to be ditched. We do an outstanding job, considering that's how we do our standardized tests. But it's an outstanding job that shortchanges the kids.

In 9th (maybe 10th) grade test and evaluate and interrogate the kids because in 10th (perhaps 11th) grade their roads split: Some go into very-much non-academic, low-skilled programs; some go into skill-developing vocational or technical programs; others go into academic programs leading to science/engineering or history/humanities. Yeah, you can appeal and pull off a miracle of self-preparation over the summer. Once in a program you can transfer--if you can catch up quickly.

We essentially shunt kids into the academic equivalent of many countries' low-skilled programs on a wide scale now, except that while those programs slight academics they don't provide any other training. And every once in a while some politician or parent objects and makes life hell for the kids who just aren't any good at science or math or arts or whatever. (My life was hell because we had required art classes and I really, really sucked at drawing, sculture, etc. Fortunately, I didn't have to take any in high school. The kid who sucked as much at math as I did in art didn't have it so lucky: still, in 11th grade math they were just working on adding fractions. Now they'd make him take at least two years of algebra, if not trig and geometry. I can only imagine how miserable he'd be, or how overblown the course titles would have to be to make make him miserable.)