A little perspective on Ed Schultz

[JohnnyRingo]

He went on air and offered a apology that no one on the right can say fell short in sincerity. They can't complain that he should have said more or that it was a "non-apology". Ed Wins there.

He took a one week suspension that wasn't mandated by his employer. Once again, Ed wins because it makes him appear to repent without reprimand. Face it, Ed Schultz is not going to miss any meals or skip an airplane payment over this, and his love of fishing will turn it into a vacation of sorts.

This isn't what the right was demanding this afternoon. Though I only skimmed through, there wasn't one post in Free Republic that expressed a desire for Schultz to take a week off without pay. Needless to say they wanted him fired, sued to the eye teeth, and hung out to dry for the rest of his life. They also wanted him to take Maddow with him for no logical reason.

Ed wins because he took a slap on the wrist, he expunges his transgression by doing the right thing, and the right will continue to steam with renewed vigor upon his ultimate return.

As an aside, I wonder when we'll hear from Keith Olbermann on this. Since he dated her I imagine he would be the one person who can use the word "slut" in an honest context if it fits, though being a gentleman I doubt if he does. Indeed, I openly wonder if those here who say the word is off limits would consider it alright if Laura was all over Keith like a bad rash on the first date. I don't recall George Carlin mentioning that word as one of the ones that cannot be uttered on TV.

[OKNancy]

1. You were doing so good until the last paragraph. n/t

[JohnnyRingo]

2. Sorry... just wondering out loud

It doesn't have anything to do with how professionally Ed handled his problem and perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned it, but from where I come from it's a derogatory name that describes a certain woman of a forward nature that doesn't fit within social mores. The word exists because the person exists.

I took my second (and final) wife to a concert the Outlaws opened for years ago. When she disappeared mid show and turned up an hour after the headlining act, she admitted to having drunken backstage sex with the bass player. I forgave her, but there was an episode soon after involving my oldest son that I don't at all like to discuss. I personally think describing that woman as a "bad girl" really falls short.

I agree that, having no intimate history with Laura Ingraham, Ed was out of bounds. He did however handle his loose mouth correctly after the fact (IMO).

[PCIntern]

14. Whoa..shit, holy cow, bro:

you're a better man than I am, that's all I can say...

"forgiveness" in that respect, would not be in order in my life...I give you credit, I guess.

[lies and propaganda]

3. they.did.not.date. RIGHT????

Not that it matters, just a huge barf if its true ;p

[JohnnyRingo]

5. According to Keith they did.

He's mentioned it more than once on "Countdown" when he chastised her as "Worst Person".
There was someone else with a high profile, but I forget who it was.

[Raine]

4. Ed showed class and dignity with his genuine and

heartfelt apology which is more than any reTHUGlican has ever done for the many disgusting racist and sexiest insults they hurl at our side. x(

[whathehell]

6. Agree with OKNancy...You were doing well until the last paragraph. n/t

[ejpoeta]

7. the screechers want him fired for saying something which i do agree he should not have said

but that the people they listen to say much worse every fucking day and then these morans tell us to quit whining and free speech. they are all a bunch of hypocrites. They sit there and listen to limbaugh and beck and even laura ingram go on and on saying crap about everyone and everything and that is just fine and dandy. but then someone else does it and they just go apeshit with the they need to be fired bs.

I am glad Ed saw what he did was wrong and actually said he was sorry and took a suspension for it. Would any of those clowns at faux ever gotten one of thse they'd be bitching and whining and then they'd blame someone else as is the motto of the personal responsibility crowd. He should not have called anyone a slut. But people like Beck and Limbaugh, they incite hatred and violence in their listeners. That is something a far sight worse than what Ed did. And they do it every day with impunity and claiming freedom of speech the whole time. And when someone like Gabby Gifford or someone else gets shot or murdered they step back and claim that they didn't mean for anyone to get hurt. They claim that they were just talking... just saying words..... they didn't mean for anyone to get hurt.

Yes, calling people names is uncalled for and unnecessary. But on the scale of things someone should get fired over, I'd defintely put that far below the crap that they pull over at glen beck and rush limbaugh.... and laura ingram too. the whole lot of them. whipping up a bunch of racists. and then there are the real nutjobs in that crowd who are going to hear all their rhetoric and act on it.

[seabeyond]

8. wtf... so if they fucked then she is a slut and he is a gentleman? wtf. nt

[JohnnyRingo]

9. No

[JohnnyRingo]

11. Affix a mental image of a "pervert" in your mind.

Most likely it was the stereotypical man in a trench coat with pant legs tied to his knees waiting at the bus stop to shock women or an old man who is deluded into thinking young girls are still interested in him. You didn't demean all men with that name, it's just the word we use to describe males who step outside the parameters of decent sexual behavior. We use the word because perverts exist.

If a woman walks into a bar alone dressed to the nines and proceeds to stroke the thighs of every man at the bar to procure free drinks for the night, we'd call her a slut. If a man does that, we'd call him an ambulance because society actually does lay down a double standard for sexual behavior. We use the word because sluts exist.

I further proffer that women are much more likely to use the term than men. While at least half the men in the example above would probably use the word "interesting" rather than slut, nary one woman present would be able to resist the moniker, especially if her mate were to look in her direction for more than a second.

My point is that while we sometimes use hurtful language to describe certain people, gender specific terms certainly have their place in society. If I seem harsh, you could say I'm being a "prick" about it and demean all men for all time as being the mean spirited sex by their very nature.

[seabeyond]

12. you dont get it johnny. maybe if we used the scenario with men that they are inept creatures that

cant take care of themselves or nurture their children, then it may be in the same catagory.

men use sexuality as a weapon against women and have forever, but especially now. to reduce women to her sexuality, when there is no place about sex is old and true. it is like the woman who won in ny. instead of congrat on the win for her ability a poster throse up a video of near naked women doing a sex dance. why? why because a women politically win is she reduced to strippin down and dancin for males entertainment.

when the songs, the movies, the clothes, the porn we are reducing women to whores for male entertainment. that societal conditioning is extending to all women, all the time.

[dionysus]

10. why johnny ringo, i'm your huckleberry.

[Dreamer Tatum]

13. In other words, Ed simply doesn't KNOW if she's a slut.

Ah.

Man, the implicit misogyny is stunning sometimes.