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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 09:37 AM
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They Love Each Other


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They Love Each Other
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

Friday 27 May 2011

It's nothing, they explain
It's like a diesel train
You better not be there
When it rolls over

And when that train rolls in
You don't know where it's been
You gotta try and see
A little further...

- The Grateful Dead


I am in love with my wife. I love her, and am also in love with her, and those are two very separate things, a difference you'll understand if you've ever been there. We met, we courted, we fell for each other, and it was like throwing the parachute out of the plane and jumping out after it. We caught it, and landed softly in a wedding ceremony an October and a half ago under the blazing canopy of New Hampshire in Autumn, and every day since has filled me to bursting.

I take my ring off every once in a while, hold it in my palm, and look at it. It is a perfect circle, seamless, with neither beginning nor end. So it is with my love for my wife, and her love for me. At my disposal are all the words that are or have ever been, and still I stand wordstruck before the simple task of explaining how I feel about her, and us. It is too much. I am undone before the tremendous fact of my love for her.

She is my last love, but she is not my first.

There was a girl in high school, who I had dreamed of for far and ever before we finally found each other. I was eighteen, a head-bursting incoherent eighteen, and in that other October (the 14th, to be exact) we were brave enough to kiss in her bedroom one night when her parents were away. She was my first love, and to this day I remember the lines of her face to the decimal. Her smile could undo mountains, and she laughed quite exactly like music. Were I to live a thousand lifetimes, I would never, ever forget her.

There was a girl in college who was a vast, beautiful mystery. She was wounded when I met her, just as I was, and we were well met in the silence between us, because we knew, we understood, and we relished the shared peace between those unspoken words. She was cursed with wisdom far beyond her years, and that knowledge walked with her always. She was voluptuous in silence, an enigma, exhausting, and altogether lovely.

There was a girl in San Francisco, sharp as a blade and beautiful beyond explanation. She was the world exploding, made entirely of rage and passion and blunt force, soft in her way, and entirely unforgiving. She had the worst poker face in all of human history, and was helpless to avoid letting the world know her thoughts, because she wore them on her sleeve and on her unutterably beautiful face. Her presence bent the very light.

And there is Cailen, song of songs, my love, my wife. I defy the whole world to find eyes of a more glorious blue than hers. Her hair, her face, her way...oh, I could sing her song from here to the end of the world, but sufficed to say, she is my beloved. She is my breath. I am, because she is.

It is my privilege to tell these stories in the broad light of day, and that privilege has everything to do with gender. Were I to spin similar tales of my love for Mike instead of Michele, Larry instead of Laura, Carl instead of Cara, or Chris instead of Cailen, I might get my ass kicked for my trouble. But I'm lucky. I am a man attracted to women. Thus, I am spared from Biblical damnation.

For lo, it doth saith in Leviticus 18:22 that "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination." This is the same Book that saith, and I quote Exodus 35:2, "Six days you shall do work: the seventh day shall be holy unto you, the Sabbath and the rest of the Lord: he that shall do any work on it shall be put to death."

Wait, what?

I live and die six months a year by the NFL calendar, being the sinner that I am, and it seems Tom Brady and the rest of the New England Patriots - along with every other NFL player, coach, broadcaster, stadium vendor and parking lot attendant - need a good stoning to show them what's what. The same, according to said Book, goes for anyone who plants different crops side by side or wears clothing made from two different threads. Slavery is fine, as is the total subjugation of women, but God help you (literally) if you plant your beans next to your tomatoes on a Sunday afternoon.

As best as I can fathom, therefore, the Bible is for the most part a nest of savage, cruel gibberish with a few nuggets of genuine wisdom salted throughout. It is hardly the best basis for the establishment of a code of social conduct, and yet here we sit, eleven years into the 21st century, telling good and decent people they cannot love, they cannot marry, because Leviticus says so.

Well, maybe not. For the first time, a majority of Americans are in favor of same-sex marriage, which may simply be another way of saying they don't give a damn one way or the other. The turgid culture war issues of the last few decades don't appear to be high on most people's priority list anymore, now that wars and unemployment and economic calamity have crowded them out. Jim Daly, president of the holy-rolling Focus on the Family, recently said the fight over same-sex marriage is all but over, and his side did not prevail.

My home state of Massachusetts enjoys the honor, thanks to the 2004 ruling in Goodridge v. The Department of Health, of being the first state in this union to legalize same-sex marriage. In Cambridge, just across the river, they lined up around the block at City Hall to make the oath and take the plunge. There were so many smiles, so many hugs, so many tears of pure joy on that day. It was magical, and far overdue.

They love each other, you see, and that is all that matters. I think there is something about love in that Book, too.

http://www.truth-out.org/they-love-each-other/1306497200
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 09:38 AM
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1. Bravo Marge!
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 10:09 AM
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2. I am going to reply to a very small part of that.
For lo, it doth saith in Leviticus 18:22 that "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination."

What if that was not understood. What if the 'man' and 'women' was the soldier and the servant. And it was about bonds with those of darkness, not that were servants. Have you ever stopped to think of the spiritual meaning of that, and the soldier servant paradigm. And the idea of angels having children, where in the spirit a child is an idea or concept. And that it says not to have ideas from the dark side that hates mankind. Side note, there are soldier side that is of light, they are servants that used to be soldier side. So there really is servants of both nurturing, and soldiering. And bad side soldiering. But that is a long story.

So those talking about Leviticus 18:22 should consider if what they follow is serving all mankind.

So might that simply be saying, don't take the teachings of the bent bad hateful that are in rebellion with God, and instead find the servants of light, or you should teach those in rebellion of the teaching of servants of light without doing what they try to tell you to do.

It might be that some translated the spiritual into concepts in the mortal.

I could post many pages explaining the reason for man and women to be together, and how that has an effect on society, and how that effect could even change over time. And that also brings up many topics and hundreds of pages.


This is the same Book that saith, and I quote Exodus 35:2, "Six days you shall do work: the seventh day shall be holy unto you, the Sabbath and the rest of the Lord: he that shall do any work on it shall be put to death."

Who defines what is holy, and what is work on the Sabbath? A Rabbi that might teach on the Sabbath? And might any work done by a person be a form of teaching. Although I understand the concept both of a day of rest, and many reflection. Do you really think it matters what day that occurs on? If you do, you are in tradition, not in the meaning of that thought, and not keeping the meaning of that day holy.

If you need someone to tell you to spend a day in reflection and thought of the Lord, you are already messed up. Although becuase of some that do not care about workers, it is a needed societal law to give people fairer working conditions.

But here is the real question.

Define Holy. And if you know what it is, why would you need writings to tell you? If you follow the writings to honor God you do. But if you do that for fear of punishment from society, you do not honor God. So all the people that keep the sabbath holy 'to fit in' or by 'peer pressure' are in violation of keeping it holy. Since it is not from there heart anyways.

You can discuss this for a long time. But it is about the meaning of the law, not the letter, but there are many laws followed by letter for social order, but they can also be about the time they are written.


For instance, Kosher laws, are the same idea as the Food and Drug protections of food supply. To help people by having someone supervising food safety. Is that helping society, or for God's benefit, does God care about what you eat, or that what you eat is safe to eat?


Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1414069/brothers_in_arms_dire_straits/

Bonnie Raitt - I Can't Make You Love Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW9Cu6GYqxo

Bonnie Raitt - Nick of Time
http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=407128

Nickelback - If Everyone Cared
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IUSZyjiYuY
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 10:23 AM
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4. Dude. Here.

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 10:39 AM
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6. Thats cute.
Thanks for the nice thought.

:hug:
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:10 AM
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10. thanks for accepting it in the spirit it was given
wasn't sure how to represent "many experiences".. hope the peace corps would suffice :)
:hi:
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 09:37 PM
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36. I actually add 'many experiences' to not forget that anything can be learned from
And the idea of having a journey in life.

In a way it seems part of life is to have experiences, some good some bad, but all add to joy and learning in some way.

What would beer and travel money be without a journey also.

Don't Stop Believing - Journey :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I-SbwCHJ80

Midnight train,
Street light people.

Nick of time, and light even in the darkness :)

Journey - Faithfully
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVs4jDL-JBo

And if you see the metaphor? Who is the girl in that song, also him maybe, servants to all.
And nice Title in that youtube clip, from Matrix scene, rescue of Morpheus.

"Two strangers learn to fall in love again", getting the lost soldiers home.




Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1414069/brothers_in_arms_dire_straits/

Bonnie Raitt - I Can't Make You Love Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW9Cu6GYqxo

Bonnie Raitt - Nick of Time
http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=407128

Nickelback - If Everyone Cared
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IUSZyjiYuY

:loveya:
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 09:41 PM
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37. Who cares what Leviticus says?
It's author was profoundly ignorant of the rest of the world.

Interesting historical document but otherwise.... useless.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 10:21 AM
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3. A beautiful piece of writing
On the most beautiful subject of all. I would like to note that Yankee virtues of frugality, economy, and fair play had a lot to do with early acceptance of same-sex marrige "up noth". For a lot of the old-timers, it had to do with hospital visitors, kid's issues (Sorry you couldn't go on the field trip, Joey, but your other Dad should have signed the slip....), parental & grandparent's rights, health insurance.. The day to day stuff that love and family brings along for the ride.
Rather than go on for days, a little Widespread Panic (Hope in a Hopeless world) "Hard to find love, in such hateful times"
http://youtu.be/eNV5z-1BAS0
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 10:34 AM
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5. Thankyou, Will
nt
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 10:44 AM
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7. The most radical revolutionary act
is to love like you do, no matter what. Without reservations. It transforms two people, and that's where revolutions always start, one individual at a time.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 10:57 AM
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8. If my words did glow
Edited on Fri May-27-11 11:00 AM by Zorra
with the gold of sunshine
and my tunes were played
on the harp unstrung
would you hear my voice
come through the music?
Would you hold it near
as it were your own?

(lyrics by Robert Hunter, from the Grateful Dead song Ripple)

Well, now you've gone and done it, Will; you brought me to tears.

Your writing has gotten better and better over the years, IMO, and it seems to me that recently you've totally gone to another level.

Thank you so much for that wonderful piece.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:31 PM
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32. Hold out your hand
If your cup is empty
If your cup is full, may it be again
Let it be known, there is a fountain
That was not made by the hands of men.
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1awake Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:09 AM
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9. I was with you
until you addressed your poorly thought out preference for the evil Patriots.. now I don't know if I can trust your judgement at all. ;)

While I don't agree with your apparant interpretations of various passages, I support your meaning entirely. Nicely done.
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cate94 Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:17 AM
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11. Thanks. n/t
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:20 AM
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12. lord, you can see that it's true... n/t
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:22 AM
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13. your portraits of the women you have loved...
make you sound like a golden tongued poet. Like an artist. Like a man who has know love. And understands how precious it is.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:28 AM
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14. Bravo.
:toast:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:28 AM
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15. Ah, my dear Will...
It's too early in the morning here for tears...

And yet I have them.

Thank you...

Cailen is so very very lucky.

As are you...

Blessings on you both!

:hug:
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:38 AM
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16. wonderful, Will...
so eloquently put and thank you. :thumbsup:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 12:34 PM
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17. Lord, you can see, that it's true..
and i'm not even religious. great post will. k&r.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 01:49 PM
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18. An excellent piece,
well-crafted and well written. Well, all except for that part about the Patriots. :rofl:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 01:51 PM
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19. There's a girl in New York City
who calls herself the "human trampoline".
And sometimes when I'm falling and flying and tumbling in turmoil
I say "woah, so this is what she means."
She means we're bouncing into Graceland.




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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 02:45 PM
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20. All we NEED is LOVE
nothing you can see that isn't shown--JL
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 02:54 PM
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21. Nicely done, William
..but I did throw up in my mouth just a little.:P
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 02:57 PM
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22. Thank You for this, Will. It was beautiful.
K&R
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 02:58 PM
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23. Fantastic post, but then all of your posts are fantastic. n/t
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 03:38 PM
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24. A beautiful piece Will, I enjoyed reading it
and you're absolutely right.
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Ninjaneer Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 03:47 PM
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25. Amazing. Just amazing.
Thank you for this. All I can say is, amazing.

I fear I don't have the words to do your words justice.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 04:14 PM
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26. _^_
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 06:02 PM
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27. Lovely -- thank you -- one day maybe love will overcome hate --
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 06:24 PM
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28. K&R n/t
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 06:42 PM
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29. I have to say my thoughts about the "Good Book"
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:00 PM
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30. Fantastic post!!
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:31 PM
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31. And I have to ask Biblophiles this:
...if you are born gay, then your Creator made you that way to be that way. And you have the NERVE to stand there and say your "perfect" God made a mistake? Being a person of faith, I don't think so ..."

(walking away shaking my head in disgust ...)

Cat in Seattle
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 11:36 PM
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41. I think they believe it's a cross that must be borne --
-- same as if a person is born with Downs Syndrome, or a physical deformity, or some other physiological burden. Being gay is something you must learn to live with; sure, God made you gay, but your burden is to not act on it. That's the challenge God set before you.

At least, that's how it was explained to me by a family member.

For the record, this family member is not an evangelical nor a Bible thumper, does not believe the Earth is only 4,000 years old, and was not expecting to be raptured last weekend. She is one of the most incredible people I know: kind, generous, loving -- practically a saint, if I may say so. I must admit being a little surprised when she explained this to me.

---------------------------------
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 07:51 PM
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33. A fabulous post
Rec
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 08:03 PM
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34. A truly delicious feast of description, metaphor, and reason. REC. nt
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 09:10 PM
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35. One small addition to your wonderful post where you describe the Bible as
"a nest of savage, cruel gibberish with a few nuggets of genuine wisdom salted throughout." -- that it is, and maybe, over centuries and through translations,it might also contain a few genuinely poetic phrases as well. No more than that.


Great post! Lucky women who have known you, and lucky wife you have!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 09:57 PM
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38. Would to god I could get my mother to read this
let alone not to say and mean she "liked it"
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ergot Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 09:58 PM
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39. If I could write like that, I would be
you.

:D

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 10:30 PM
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40. K&R. (nt)
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 03:27 AM
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42. Eloquent
Just simply eloquent... what a beautiful decription of love. Thank you for this Will!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 09:20 AM
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43. A lovely post. However....
If you think for a minute that your marriage actually follows the Leviticus laws, you are either Hasidic or delusional. Look it up. There are many, many ways that a straight marriage can be 'unclean' and thus an abomination. I assume you do not live apart during some times of the month, I assume the ritual baths do not occur. It goes on like this. Leviticus does not say 'once you are married you get to do whatever you want, whenever you want'. It gives married people long, complex lists of behaviors which must be followed.
Also, about that wife of yours. I bet she does things Leviticus calls abominations all the time, like speaking to men other than you. I also assume you fail to punish her for that, as you are supposed to. I bet you have failed to stone your kids for talking back, and I also assume that your community has children who do many wrongs, and that you and the men in your community do not stone them to death, as you are instructed to do by Leviticus. I bet your garden mixes different plants in the same bed, abomination. I bet you would wear a blended fabric, and not even realize that it is an abomination, and that someone should be stoning you to death for that.
This sports thing? Not really acceptable Leviticus wise. I know that sports are played for money, there are wagers made, and of course no matter how you count the week, these money making sports events occur on the Sabbath. Abomination. Huge, huge, huge one.
So you are not spared Levitical damnation if that makes you feel any better. Both you and your wife are unclean, and thus abominable by the standards of that book. As are we all, many times everyday.
I just wanted to make that point, this was a lovely post, Mr Pitt.
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