Is anyone else worried that these bird deaths may mark an impending "Flash Forward"??

[cbdo2007]

Anyone watch the show Flash Forward last year?? For many of us who were fans of the ABC drama, these bird deaths are extra alarming as the energy manipulation that caused the Flash Forward to happen first struck birds in some of their practice runs.

I'm just hoping the Govt didn't set up the show Flash Forward as a way to prepare us for some real life tests they are running that could endanger us all. 20 Million people died on the day the Flash Forward occurred in the show. Be careful out there everyone!!

[babylonsister]

1. Can you explain what flash forward means? I didn't see the show. Thanks. nt

[cbdo2007]

7. During the "Flash Forward" everone on Earth blacked out for 2.5 minutes.

Here is a description of the novel FlashForward from Wikipedia:

Flashforward is a science fiction novel by Canadian author Robert J. Sawyer first published in 1999. The novel is set in 2009. At CERN, the Large Hadron Collider accelerator is performing a run to search for the Higgs boson. The experiment has a unique side effect: the entire human race loses consciousness for about two minutes. During that time, nearly everyone sees themselves in the future (by about 21 years). Each individual experiences their own future through the senses of their future self. This "flashforward" results in countless deaths and accidents involving vehicles, aircraft, and any other device needing human control at the time of the experiment. The novel inspired the 2009 television series FlashForward.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashforward_(novel)

[babylonsister]

8. Thanks! nt

[Sal Minella]

2. For those of us who abandoned TV twenty years ago,

a little explanation would be most helpful. Thanks.

[Champion Jack]

3. Why would they use the show Flash Forward as a way to prepare us ?

wouldn't it make more sense to use a show that people actually watched?

[PhillySane]

4. Stop watching TV

and you'll be fine.

[annabanana]

5. I know that, absent any apparent lightning in either bird-die case..

MY first instinct is to wonder what other kind of concussive wave might have passed through the air...

[Chorophyll]

6. I think you're overestimating the capabilities of the Govt. nt

[cbdo2007]

10. You've got to be kidding!!

All day yesterday I listened to Coast to Coast about these secret time travel and teleportation experiments that OUR OWN govt has been doing since the early 1970's. You should look up some of those shows, it's really REALLY going to open your eyes.

[onpatrol98]

13. Secret Time Travel...Teleportation

:shrug:

Are you kidding me? In a country where capitalism rules...companies would be using that technology to separate people from their money. Can't you just see the television commercials trying to convince you that you REALLY NEED to go back in time. Or, teleportation commercials that allow you to get to work INSTANTLY.

If the commercialization of it hasn't happened, it probably doesn't exist.

[cbdo2007]

19. You need to listen to more Coast to Coast!

[Hugabear]

23. I've listened a few times...most of it complete moonbat shit

I could tell that even the host sometimes had a hard time taking his guests and callers seriously.

Do you believe everything you hear on that show? Or are there topics that you find completely batshit insane?

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. It is a good place to go get premises for fiction though

:-)

[Hugabear]

21. Those explanations are MUCH more likely...

Super-secret time travel and teleportation experiments are much more likely than simpler explanations like weather, toxins, fireworks, etc. :tinfoilhat:

[sufrommich]

24. Are you being sarcastic? I hope so. nt

[Chorophyll]

31. Uh no, I'm not kidding!

All day yesterday I read newspapers and sites like DU. So I know what our "govt" is up to. It's up to starving its citizens and fellating the rich, all while spending brazillions of dollars on endless wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. But do go about your business.

[tularetom]

9. If they TRIED to do that they'd screw it up

I have a problem with most conspiracies for that very reason. Too many people have to be involved and somebody always blabs.

[nebenaube]

11. yeah... right...

or you just kill off those who know... The concept of compartmentalization must escape you.

[Edweird]

12. No. The real world is not a Disney movie.

[Aleric]

14. I'm more worried about the lack of scientific literacy in this country

The LHC will not destroy the earth in a black hole.
The verification of the existence of the Higgs Boson will not transport us to Narnia or unleash any other magic upon the world.
There are no warp engines.
Apple Laptops can not hack into alien spaceships.
We are not the descendents of Galactica.

For more bad movie physics go to http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/

[sufrommich]

26. Amen. Scary what people willingly believe. nt

[EstimatedProphet]

30. Thank you.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. Damn and I was going to use my macbook

To hack into the cylon ship before the earth stands still...

Talk about mixing bad ones...

That said Galactica was far more social comment than science fiction. The kind though that sadly you could not do in other ways.

[robcon]

15. Alarmist crap, IMO.

Birds (or other animals) dying in groups: normal process.

[Javaman]

16. no, the hacks in washington aren't clever enough to put together a poorly

paced, poorly structured, moderately well acted and directed, concept of the likes of flashforward.

[freshwest]

17. Unless it's the other way around.

I suspect D. C. is where Hollywood rejects end up.

:hi:

[Javaman]

20. LOL good one! LOL nt

[freshwest]

18. Thanks for the thread and the replies explaining this.

But I think there is something to be said for media preparing the masses or desensitizing them. We've been subjected to the RW version of reality from media for almost a generation now. After a while, what they project becomes reality for many people.

And when people vote according to that, it affects all of us, even those of us who never believed in that view of life. I still feel that there are many ways for us to live our lives separate from all of it.

There was a thread on the forum yesterday with a newspaper in the UK claiming that the death of the man in Delaware was related to this event, which they termed a 'weapons test.'

I've also read and heard the internet tales for a few years of what it's claimed the governments or those forces who appear to work off the books of government funding, are able to do. More mainstream scientific venues give hints of what human (ha ha?) technology is capable of doing.

There is a culture of belief being created, with good or ill intent, or perhaps a profound truth is being revealed to us with data that may or may not be true. It's amazing what even conventional sources are revealing to us today. I don't discount what any source says unless I can sense the manipulation.

Emotional music and fearful, scornful, hateful or angry voices are the first clue that someone is attempting to persuade us to believe something not to our advantage, but for the person who hawking something. Not just products are sold, all sort of beliefs are sold to us daily. We've seen the Becks and O'Reilly's and churches and even the scientific types give us the hype.

Thanks for bringing an interesting idea to us here. This is a political matter if any government is using such technology for their own agendas and not telling us. Wish there was a Wikileaks on this story!

[OneGrassRoot]

27. "Wish there was a Wikileaks on this story!"

Me, too!

I wanted to jump in to say that I appreciate your thoughtful sharings.

:hi:

[freshwest]

34. Thanks, and I like the website in your signature.

We'd better keep open minds because that's the root of learning and inclusiveness, good liberal, progressive and Democratic traits!

[sufrommich]

22. Flash Foward was fiction. Life is not. nt

[freshwest]

44. I think most of our lives are our own fictions. With a few walk on roles added in.

No need to make too much of what of we believe, as something may come along and sweep it away.

There's a saying, 'Don't believe everything you think.'

I'm always willing to confess the possibility that I've been conned or led astray. We get caught in movements and things we want to believe all the time as we learn. Sometimes that requires a few visits into unconventional or opposing mindsets.

The more likelihood that we are selling ourselves something is the use of repetition, like RW punditry. There is room for skepticism and room for temporary credulity in order to explore new thinking. The people least able to admit it are right wingers. If you interrupt or dispute the data they're uploading, they get very cranky.

:hi:

[AmandaMae]

25. um...no. I'm more worried about the possibility of it being an environmental hazard...

or something like that. I haven't read all that much about it so I'm probably wrong, but that was my first thought when I heard this story. Flash Forward sounds a little too sci-fi to me.

[robcon]

28. The conspiracy theories do harm to DU's reputation as a politcal discussion board.

It's shocking to me that so many revert to wacky conspiracy theories.

[sufrommich]

29. It seems to be a natural inclination of too many people.

I don't get it.

[cbdo2007]

36. the political discussion does harm to DU's reputation as a political discussion board as well

sometimes.

[hlthe2b]

32. Overseas, they think it was accidental Phosgene gas release

and suggest the Delaware murder of the former Pentagon official was linked. ;) Hey, I only report. In the immortal words of SGT Schultz, "I Know NOTHING!"

http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/top-us-official-murdered-after-arkansas-weapons-test-causes-mass-death

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. And that is so full of holes it is not even funny

:-)

But science illiteracy is not just an American issue I guess.

For the record, we don't make it, hence why it is a CLASS III Hazmat, and needs a special licence for transport.

On the bright side the half life is so low that this mythical Iraqi batch would have gone bad well before we invaded.

I correct...

[dolo amber]

33. ...

[Stevenmarc]

35. .

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. TV is not reality

I can write pretty interesting treatments too.

It IS a teevee treatment.

[BlueMTexpat]

40. No. And I already posted why on a previous thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4683936&mesg_id=4683969

[pitohui]

42. no because these bird rainfalls are a regular occurrence

my god, can DUers be so sheltered that they have never heard of charles fort?

seriously, in decades gone by, folks like fort and john keel used to collect stories of rainfalls of birds, fish, frogs

we have a whole town in louisiana, its claim to fame was a rainfall of frogs in 1947

there were TORNADOES throughout arkansas and louisiana at the time of the bird rainfalls, considering the millions of red-winged blackbirds that sometimes occur in this area at this time of year, i'm surprised that ANYONE is mystified about two small rainfalls of red-winged blackbirds, i think one was 1000 birds, the other 500 birds? anyway, nothing out of the ordinary considering how many birds a few tornadoes can pick up and spin around...

a few wildlife officials have already pointed out that there was high level hail that struck the birds, hence the blunt force trauma that apparently occurred BEFORE they hit ground

seems obvious to me, i can't believe no one else noticed all this weather...

[J-Lo Biafra]

43. Sorry- can you bring me up to speed on this bird thing?

I just spent the last four months on an island in the Pacific, and my only means of escape was by turning a donkey wheel in a cave beneath the island's surface.