Moonbat theories not needed for falling birds

[Hugabear]

Birds have been falling from the sky in large numbers for a long time. It's not a common thing, but it happens. We don't need any crazy theories about super-secret government conspiricies, time travel, aliens, or anything like that. Especially when there are plenty of normal, logical alternatives such as weather, toxins, fireworks, etc. I know people want to believe in some of this far-fetched stuff, but always look for the simpler reasons first!

[RandomThoughts]

1. The simplist answer is it is not a true story.

That it is made up on news or a metaphor.

[EstimatedProphet]

2. Same thing with fish

Fish kills as described in the articles are not uncommon. They may indicate something important caused by man, or they may be naturally caused; they do happen though.

[Ozymanithrax]

3. The birds were killed by Moonbats? I had not heard that.

Oh my god. We are all gonna die.

:sarcasm:

Thanks for the sanity break.

[Motown_Johnny]

25. time traveling super secret alien government conspiracy moonbats

silly

[sufrommich]

4. The US Geological Survey has pages and pages of

recurring bird deaths,none of them caused by time travel:
http://search.usgs.gov/results.html?cx=005083607223377578371%3Ab5ixbbpqpx0&cof=FORID%3A11&q=bird+deaths&sa=Go#926

[Hugabear]

7. Pshaw...that link is from the government

You know, the all-powerful, all-knowing, evil government

[sufrommich]

8. Obviously planted info designed to keep us in the dark!

:tinfoilhat:

[Champion Jack]

5. Move along. Nothing to see here

Work
Consume
Obey

[sufrommich]

6. Yes, refusing to believe wacky conspiracy theories is

selling out to the man!

[baldguy]

20. No, it's forcing the belief that suspicious & unusual events are neither

Simply because it might upset TPTB.

[Champion Jack]

23. spot on

[OneGrassRoot]

9. It's being reported in a wide variety of places now...

Has that ever been recorded in recent history, at least?

We're accustomed to large-scale fish incidents, but I'm personally not aware of large-scale (and widespread) incidents involving birds simply dropping dead. In one location, sure; multiple locations, with more reported almost hourly, that seems rather alarming.

What are the most logical explanations for these various incidents? Fireworks sound like BS. I agree toxins seem most likely but, again, covering such a wide area? Is there a common denominator to all affected areas? All near water, perhaps?

Just wondering. :shrug:

Is there a precedent for this type of large-scale incident involving birds and covering so many different areas?

[annabanana]

10. Didn't I read that migrasting birds need magnetic North to navigate?

SUN SPOTS


look it up

[Hugabear]

12. Weather is a very likely culprit

What I've heard is many of these birds suffered from trauma to the chest. There are several weather related phenomena that could cause that. Hail, lightning (both direct and pressure from the thunder), high winds, etc. Hasn't there been a lot of rough weather in that area of the country?

And why would fireworks be BS? If you have a larger, concentrated flock flying through an area where there are a lot of fireworks going off, it could happen. After all, what are fireworks but just a bunch of very colorful explosions in midair? I think that is much much more likely than time travel.

[OneGrassRoot]

14. While I agree about the time travel thing...lol

(can't even begin to wrap my pea brain around that concept), it's the fact that there are reports from various states, and even other countries (Sweden, for example), of sudden large-scale bird deaths.

That's what makes me doubt most of the current explanations, including weather and fireworks.

[Tsiyu]

13. Good questions

I've seen occasional birds drop dead from disease, and have heard of larger numbers involved in a "sudden death" but not in so many diverse places over such a short time.

this could be due to media having more access, but i wonder statistically about such a cluster.

[OneGrassRoot]

15. Exactly....

Has it occurred before but we never heard about it as we are now given how news travels instantaneously these days with Twitter, etc?

And, if it did occur before in such a way, was an explanation ever provided?

:hi:

[blondeatlast]

11. Even End times "Expert" Kirk Cameron agrees with you.

Link to other thread upon edit: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=117769&mesg_id=119141

BTW: I agree with him--and with you.

[SheilaT]

16. A time travel theory of the birds falling out

of the sky? I missed that one.

Even though I clearly understand that time travel is probably impossible and will never happen in our universe, I love stories/movies/tv shows/anything else about time travel. I also sometimes, just to myself, invoke a time travel theory to explain something. It's a lot of fun, as long as it's never confused with reality.

[OneGrassRoot]

17. I just watched "The Time Traveler's Wife"

With Rachel McAdams and Eric Bana.

I thought it was a wonderful, entertaining -- even haunting -- movie, but the idea of TIME in general (be it time travel or parallel lives and similar topics), admittedly wigs me out and my brain can't comprehend. There are quite a few movies out there exploring those topics, and I have a hard time following...

:rofl:

It's fascinating though, obviously to many people since it is explored on a regular basis in movies and books.

:hi:

[SheilaT]

21. There are lots and lots of good

time-travel novels and even some half-way decent time-travel movies out there.

Here's a short list:
novels - TIME AND AGAIN by Jack Finney. Also the sequal FROM TIME TO TIME
TIME ON MY HANDS by Peter delaCorte
A BRIDGE OF YEARS by Robert Charles Wilson
REPLAY by Ken Grimwood. Not really conventional time travel as such, but a man who keeps on living his life over and over.
GUNS OF THE SOUTH by Harry Turtledove. Time travellers from the future travel back to the Civil War and supply 21st century armaments to the Confederacy, which makes it more of an alternate history novel. But Turtledove, who is a historian by profession, gets the behavior and attitudes of the 19th century characters perfect. Or so it seems to me. They are not 20th/21st Century people dressed in old clothes, but real, living, breathing mid-19th century Americans.

As for movies, THE BUTTERFLY AFFECT is a time-travel gem, in my opinion, and really shows how changes made cascade down through time.
TWELVE MONKEYS is for my money the most purely science-fictional film ever made. Brad Pitt is absolutely incredible in it.

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[IcyPeas]

22. "it's happened before" yes... but in these numbers?

[Robb]

24. Yes.

For grins, I tried these last night (Google News archive searches, you can sort by date):

http://www.google.com/#q=%22hundreds+of+dead+birds%22&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&prmd=ivnsufd&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=RLolTf-rD8X7lwero_yQAQ&ved=0CA8QpwU&fp=5e05e53c8dca3128

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=nws:1%2Car%3A1&q=%22hundred%20dead%20birds%22&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5e05e53c8dca3128&pf=p&pdl=300

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=nws:1%2Car%3A1&q=%22thousands+of+dead+birds%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5e05e53c8dca3128

etc. etc. :)