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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:12 PM Original message |
I know alot of people do not want to hear this, but the reason America is headed towards fascism and |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Exactly right. Stupidity and greed are at the base of most downfalls. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
156. I agree that "dumbing down" |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #156 |
212. Reagan Democrats |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Actually I would say we had been blessed in the past. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I don't care about being a super power, but I want our nation to |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. +1000 +++ n/t |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
110. It's citizens only do well if the smartest amongst us innovate for us and do the genius work. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #110 |
119. dkf, those smartest often come from parents and grandparents |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Oh I don't mean to say that people who labor aren't smart. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:39 AM Response to Reply #110 |
158. The efforts of such people |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:15 AM Response to Reply #110 |
194. Only fit to be farmers???? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. You do realize our "superior lifestyles" are the result of stealing resources |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
77. Doesn't have to be. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. There are finite resources - if some exploit than yes it will be that way. nt |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
96. We are not stealing them. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:41 AM Response to Reply #79 |
159. There are alternatives |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #79 |
205. It does not have to be that way if we would get off our collective asses |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #205 |
209. Good post - and I would like to see sustainable energy as well |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #205 |
221. It's not that anyone is lazy about doing that, it's that folks are being roadblocked from doing that |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
136. That was not always true. |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #136 |
202. I live on what was a tobacco farm settled in 1725/30 era |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #202 |
234. Hillbilly Bob, I agree with you. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. If you consider the ease by which ... |
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Kweli4Real (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
108. By "WE" ... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. I'm not white. |
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nannah (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
120. for the short haul perhaps your analysis |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Maybe that is the point...we have been riding the good life at other people expense. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #124 |
160. We could achieve ANYTHING if |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
157. It is a matter of will. |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
216. We had the best and brightest |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. they have been endlessly propagandized for decades. |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
127. This is so true. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #127 |
196. there basically is no left. |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
191. THIS! Psy-Ops works! |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. I read a survey |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. Yep, that's been the way for a long time with poor republicans, and still poor. When I was |
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timo (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
111. rich or poor ?? |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #111 |
121. It can be a bad deal all around anymore. The particular time frame I was |
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timo (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. they were |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #123 |
138. Very good point! Yep, I can only talk about the area I was in. With the unions and all |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:52 AM Response to Reply #138 |
161. Before Reagan started the |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
73. Magical thinking. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #73 |
148. That's not magical thinking...that's just wishful thinking. nt |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
134. People who believe the Horatio Alger BS prove P.T. Barnum right... |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
139. "When I win the lottery, I'll need those tax cuts for the wealthy." n/t |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:53 AM Response to Reply #139 |
162. Plus one. nt |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
226. It's also a bit of a status symbol for some minorities who come into money |
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groovedaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. Not teaching critical thinking skills early on, helps to generate a compliant worker bee mentality |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. The site I posted in this thread nails it exactly...both symptom and cause of it... |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. looking at the post, I think the worst one of all are people who |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Another fact. This group is actually no different from the group I named |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. i agree, I live in midwest city, ok. we just had a bond election fail |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. Part of the problem is that elections in OK are held something like 6-8 times per year. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #48 |
146. add to that the need for fixing the sometimes rigged voting. |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
129. I voted for Obama |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
69. + 999^999 |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
237. The public school system was never designed to teach critical thinking |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. I was agreeing with you, until your statement about the boomers. nt |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Majority of baby boomers vote repuke and have since Reagan was President. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Lots of them don't. nt |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I love how I was ignored when I used the word majority. Majority means most not all. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
53. it's not even most |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. How wide (or narrow) is your definition there? |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. My definition means most not all. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. I'd like your prooof of that claim. Who do you think elected CLINTON, then? Kids?? |
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Timbuk3 (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
64. I'm a baby boomer |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #64 |
141. Reagan was voted in by unions - boy, was that a mistake or what. n/t |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
236. Voting Democrat ain't necessarily the answer either |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
71. Link, please? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
100. Is there a link for that? |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
114. I'm a Boomer, and I'm |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
128. I'd like to see some substantive sources for that assertion. n/t |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
173. where did you get this factoid? |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
193. Wow, is this wrong! |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
204. link to the statistics cited? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. How dare you dump it on the boomers. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. It's not just them, but let's not be naive here the majority of voters from that group vote repuke, |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. I don't know any boomers who vote pub. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. What generation has the largest population. The majority of generation x my generation vote majority |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
50. Oh yeah? and what percentage of your generation voted for Obama? |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #50 |
201. We stopped one war |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. wow |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:06 AM Response to Reply #55 |
163. What ej510 meant was Republican = fascist. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
61. You are ludicrous. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
143. You are one hundred percent wrong. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #143 |
227. That was my recollection as well (and I'm an Xer) |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #227 |
241. No negative reflection on you, Rose. |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
206. But you refuse to post any supporting evidence? Your observations are bullshit. |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
231. I'm sure the fresh census info can answer on the facts of that, so please find and post. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
60. Again----PROOF? |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
87. There are a lot of young idiots too. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
81. Ageism is not helpful. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:08 AM Response to Reply #81 |
164. PLUS FUCKING ONE! |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
203. Not only that, but any time there is a "how old are you" poll |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. there's a great deal of truth in that, but it's a bit more complicated. |
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jasigirl33 (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Repeating myself a little: These same people were for UNIONS |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. You don't get it? It's simple. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
165. It was only another |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
16. A brainwashed dumbed down nation with propaganda beating the drum everyday that |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
166. The greatest propaganda effort in history. nt |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:35 AM Response to Reply #166 |
176. Goebbels |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #176 |
192. No question.....nt |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
17. So our only hope is to wait for them all to die? Wait for it all to collapse? |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Our kids aren't taught about the importance of voting or critical thinking. |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Isn't it all by design? That way you can dumb down entire generations |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
80. No they aren't.. but they are learning it on their own.. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
90. That's because they aren't being taught by Boomers |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #90 |
103. Quit trashing boomers, your statement has no basis in reality. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. I'm not trashing Boomers, My point was boomers are great teachers |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #106 |
213. Sorry, emulatorloo. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #213 |
230. That's OK - I think I could have written it a little better so it was clearer, |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:15 AM Response to Reply #90 |
168. What a ridiculous statement. |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #168 |
207. You owe emulatorloo an apology for jumping to conclusions. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #207 |
214. Thank you for correcting me. nt |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Good question. One way would be to vote them all out, but IMO many |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Possibly, but our nation is trying to dumb down each generation |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Sadly, I think it's one downhill spiral now. n/t |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
84. Churchill said that Yanks will come up with the best solution to any problem. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #84 |
125. Does that ever ring true, we sure have lots of examples! n/t |
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pezDispenser (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
104. This country had a good run |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:46 AM Original message |
36% of the workers were unionized. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
197. Exactly and well said!!! +1000 +++ n/t |
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pezDispenser (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
240. well said! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
169. It is the forces behind the MSM |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
183. Elections are CORRUPTED with evoting. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #183 |
198. Yep, same thoughts here. IMO elections can now be rigged. I've lost faith too that |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:13 AM Response to Reply #17 |
167. Who do you mean by "they"? |
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c14444c (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
22. You want people to vote their economic (i.e. class) interest |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. I not going to ignore facts. Working class whites hurt themselves and |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. Where are those "facts?" |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. I guess most working class whites vote democratic right? Of course |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #68 |
208. But you have no idea of what is in their best interest |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
85. Here, here. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
27. I think your premise is a crock. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Fascism doesn't happen overnight it is a long process. Just look at the |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. Germany had a duly elected government in 1933 |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
88. Ummmmmm. I humbly disagree. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 04:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
152. No, I think where a discrepancy exists between what you see as fascism and what others |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:32 AM Response to Reply #152 |
174. Thank you, truedelphi. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #174 |
244. You are welcome. Another thing to point out - |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:25 AM Response to Reply #27 |
172. We ignore the parallels to classic fascism |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
31. A lot to have at there. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I agree with your premise, but there are people who disagree with us. I would say we aren't |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
57. Guess it depends on how the term is defined. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
91. Dude - you need to make this into an OP. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:39 AM Response to Reply #57 |
177. I'll scream along with you, jotsy. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
89. Which is why my wife and I are positioning ourselves to get out sooner |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. Dear jotsy |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Say hey Miss ab! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:34 AM Response to Reply #31 |
175. Excellent rant, jotsy. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
33. But the question that needs to be asked is: why do they vote against their own best interests? |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Economic disparity breeds fear and the elite class has capitalized on |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
178. Complacent not lazy. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #33 |
199. For a democracy to succeed it is essential that the citizens are informed. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
37. Losing the media was the game changer. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Clinton and a democratic congress under Reagan assisted with this country's demise. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. They certainly did. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #37 |
179. Plus one. nt |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:13 AM Response to Reply #37 |
200. Absolutely. Control of the Press is essential for control of the people. |
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33Greeper (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
42. Pretty broad brush |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
180. It's a good OP except for that. nt |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
239. punching the hippies - from both sides now . . . n/t |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
43. Race baiting, class baiting, and age baiting at once! |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
44. Gen X-ers don't know squat. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I agree not voting is bad actually it's worse. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:46 AM Response to Reply #44 |
182. Senior citizens were only voting in self defense |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
46. I've been saying this for years. The people need to turn off the propaganda and think for themselves |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
184. Like that will happen. nt |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #184 |
225. True - it is everywhere. |
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mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
51. Its not only the Reaganites, |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:49 AM Response to Reply #51 |
185. Those so-called "Dems" are Reagan Democrats. nt |
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mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #185 |
210. lol lol lol |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
54. I guess "fascism" doesn't mean what it used to mean...nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
58. "Reagan Democrats" are from "The Greatest Generation," my father's (himself a Nixon Dem), NOT |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
63. A lot of it, though, has to do with the corporate control of all our media, so |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:51 AM Response to Reply #63 |
186. Exactly + Plus one nt |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
229. Well said! |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
65. No offense, but I'm getting sick of this meme |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #65 |
187. Good point. nt |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
66. The right teamed up with the fundies and kick-started the disaster we're now in |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Religion is a major issue. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
74. They've also been convinced that Jesus only loves rich people. nt |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Too bad they didn't read their holy book and check for themselves. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
76. Why do you think people don't want to hear that? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
78. I know, if only they had elected Obama and large Democratic majorities |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:55 AM Response to Reply #78 |
188. Exactly |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
83. Could still be salvaged, but it would take a |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
86. Boomers aren't 65 yet - they don't get Medicare or SS |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Some of us get social security. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
92. Dunno, sounds kind of elitist to me. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
93. I write essentially the same thing and it gets Un Reced... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:57 AM Response to Reply #93 |
189. That's a great OP. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
94. Oh, good grief, stop with the baby boomer crap! n/t |
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tiredtoo (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
97. While the context of this message is correct, |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:59 AM Response to Reply #97 |
190. But there is no conversation. |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
98. Blame "I Love Lucy" |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. TV viewing at 'all-time high,' Nielsen says |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #98 |
116. Does that mean you hated Lucy? |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #116 |
211. Someone's got some SPLAININ' to do!! |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
99. WOW! Nice rant, I say Amen to that...Not sure if this is correct, isn't more than half of the US |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
101. R with reservations, it was old people and gen Jones who voted for Reagan |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #101 |
131. EXACTLY! |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #101 |
228. Obama is Gen Jones. (Just sayin'.) |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
102. The repuke message machine has been an incredible success...it gets people to vote against their |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:06 AM Response to Reply #102 |
153. this is international |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
107. A few might have mentioned this before..... |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
112. One issue pro abortion voters relying on medicare and social security voting republican. |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
113. Exactly whom has attempted to appeal to the "working class white people"? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #113 |
132. Yup, the Democratic establishment forgot the working class and went all yuppie |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
115. I only find part of your post credible... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
117. Wow. bookmarked for its simplicity and clarity. |
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riverbendviewgal (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
118. Very True |
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southernyankeebelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
126. You are so right and the idiots will not realize it until their are deeply in it. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
130. Chickens vote for Colonel Saners cuz they're easy to fool |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
133. Can't argue with any of that. Rec. nt |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
135. We need to have paper ballots, and verify the vote.... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
137. Baby boomers? Why blame baby boomers? There are working people |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
140. the top 1% holds 42% of America's financial wealth, 6 times the bottom 80% with 7%.. richest 20% |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
142. We live in the Age of the American Cretin. |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
144. I think you might want to look at the "greatest generation" and |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
145. Agreed with you, but then UNrecced due to unwarranted attack on baby boomers... |
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Frisbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
147. But, but, but... Obama's a black socialist! |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
149. CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE... THE STUPIDS |
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watajob (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
150. Two good ones from Thomas Jefferson |
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Golden Raisin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
151. Oh dear. I was with |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
154. Unfortunatley, right wing propaganda works ...the public can be tricked into |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
155. K&R, conditionally. Selfish behavior is |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
170. The vast majority of us Boomers aren't collecting Social Security nor are we on medicare. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
171. Cut military spending in half and END THE WARS NOW!! |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
181. A positive step |
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Jawja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
195. It's called |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
215. I disagree |
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roxiejules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
217. Women More Likely to Be Democrats, Regardless of Age |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
218. They didn't vote against their interests in 2000, nor in 2008 |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
219. Headed towards? We're there, my dear. n/t |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
220. I tried to say the same thing a few weeks ago but I said it in the wrong way |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
222. Way to blame us boomers. I'm probably more liberal than you are |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
223. What role did predatory capitalism play in Mussolini's economic policies? |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
224. Gratuitous jab at Baby Boomers. I'd unrec if I could. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
232. A lot of people consider social issues more important than economic issues. |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
233. too late to rec. |
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johnlucas (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
235. Psssst. Too late. It's already here. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
238. HA! That moron vote is 60% of the population. It's a done |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #238 |
242. zactly |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
243. I can't believe this bullshit post got 205 recs. |
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