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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 04:22 PM
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Strange fish and bird deaths apparently going global. 40,000 dead crabs in UK.
Hard to know what to make of all this.



- 50 dead jackdaws found on city street in Sweden

- 100 tons of sardines, croaker and catfish wash up dead on Brazilian coast

- Hundreds of fish dead in New Zealand

- And in Britain, 40,000 devil crabs join list of casualties


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344345/Animal-death-mystery-Jackdaws-Sweden-fish-Brazil-New-Zealand-crabs-England.html#ixzz1ACNDauT4
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 04:24 PM
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1. yeah it's shark attack week
this stuff goes on somewhere in the world EVERY SINGLE DAY and has for centuries (pick up a copy of a few of charles fort's old books if you don't know this already) but for some reason they put a video of some red-winged blackbirds on yahoo news and suddenly it's the flavor of the week
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:17 PM
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5. It's the latest shiny thing for the media, isn't it...nt
Sid
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:56 PM
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21. Are you as dismissive about the 96% decrease in NA bumble bees?
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 06:57 PM by snagglepuss
Its rather unbelieveable that DUers of all people who I would have thought are informed about massaive environment degradation would dismiss something like this out of hand and suggest that people who are concerned are whackos.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:46 PM
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17. That is a fair point however scientists blaming it on fireworks seems like
ludicrious. Animal rights groups would have been picketing fireworks for years if fireworks kills off substantial number of birds.

I don't understand why some are dismissing concerns after what has been reported about the far-reaching repercussions of chemical dumped into the Gulf.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:07 PM
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2. Blaming it on "fireworks" in the blackbird incident.
I really don't think this is a 'normal' occurence as some here are stating.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:14 PM
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3. If it were fireworks--millions of birds would die on July 4.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:22 PM
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6. Every year.
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:58 PM
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7. Suddenly lots of articles trying to conflate the blackbird deaths with every ...
other wildlife mass death globally. There seems to be an attempt to dilute, distract-from, and tamp-down the truly mysterious blackbird deaths story.

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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:42 PM
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13. I wondered about that as well.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:47 PM
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18. No...
It's more like an attempt to link a bunch on non-related incidents, that would all have gone unnoticed had someone not made an issue of the first incident. The MSM needs something to get hysterical over, especially since they have a republican Congress whose crimes from which they'll need to start us again.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:50 PM
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19. Not necessarily.
It's probably an honest attempt to "think globally" rather than only focus on possible local causes. From an environmental standpoint, this could indicate a radical shift in global weather patterns, or the start of a global epidemic. It's not as though anything on the planet exists in a bubble exclusive to its immediate time and place - both local and global connections ought to be considered in light of so many wildlife deaths in so short a time.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:01 PM
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33. Well put.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:05 PM
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24. Your'e absolutely correct and the fact
they are putting this crap explanation should be enough to alarm.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:45 PM
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15. I agree... they have been spinning this hard...
which usually means coverup. I saw a post yesterday where they had some serious Alex Jones paranoia going on, something about chemical weapons and the murder of a guy who was in charge of chemical weapons or some shit. It looked like bullshit to me but they may have been on to something. Although I have to admit that it's really weird that only certain species are dying.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:16 PM
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4. Too bad it's not
banksters washing ashore dead.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:17 PM
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8. IT'S PROPHECY!!!
:rofl:
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:29 PM
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9. Anyone ever seen 'The Happening'?
While obviously not scientific fact, it was thought provoking enough to make one muse about the idea. What if nature COULD get pissy at humanity and 'strike back', so to speak. How would we notice it?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:31 PM
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10. Hmm I wonder what is going on with sea currents
and global weather change?

Just a thought...
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:31 PM
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11. Move along DU. Nothing to see here. Pay no attention. n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:31 PM
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12. Next week it will be a string of train wrecks, or ferry sinkings, or power outages
It's always something.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:04 PM
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23. Around noon today a large group of kids ran out of a building into an open area
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 07:04 PM by Uzybone
strange times indeed
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:16 PM
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27. recess flashmob!!1! oh noes......!!1!
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:44 PM
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14. That's freakish, and I wonder about the likes of Monsanto...
...with their pesticides and genetically mutilated food crops. Things may be hitting the fan now.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:46 PM
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16. "Smirk." - Monsanto (R)
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:51 PM
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20. That's priceless.....

Monsantoland :spray:


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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:02 PM
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22. Ever watch a flock of birds on a wire? One takes off, then they all
take off. One lands, and they all land.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:47 PM
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25. REPENT NOW. . . THE END IS NEAR. . . We have a God that loves killing animals
to make a point. . .
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:08 PM
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26. Scroll down to the last photo in that article....Fluorescent green water?
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 08:09 PM by nc4bo
It appeared then disappeared in an hour.

What in the world?
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:23 PM
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28. Most likely was a dye.
There are dyes like that used to chase water through caves and in limestone regions to determine if a well is satisfactory.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:26 PM
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29. k, thanks for the explanation. nt
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 09:12 PM
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30. Here's another example of use:
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 09:19 PM by NutmegYankee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtGNlFl32A

A science team uses a red dye to track the flow of water through a stream. Fluorescein was the likely dye used in the river in Canada. It is a neon green color.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:40 AM
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31. There's somethiing happening here
what it is ain't exactly clear.

Canaries in the coalmine people, we have to find out what is going on now. Doing so is not paranoia, it is necessary for the health of everyone you love, including yourself.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:35 PM
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32. Felix
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 02:36 PM by undergroundpanther
I agree

Sure birds drop out of the sky from time to time,but I think people are missing a point here

What is the chemical carrying capacity of the planet to sustain life?
And if that carrying capacity is reached mass die offs will occur,the symptoms of the slow poisoning will surface.

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/
http://www.endgamethebook.org/Excerpts/13-Carrying-Capacity.htm


we live in an inescapable toxic stew.Thanks to the unchecked greed of the rich.When all the edible fish,birds,etc.are dead,we will be FORCED to buy and eat whatever corporations sell. We will eat GM,Monsanto. And by our hunger,by our will to live without a slow starving death we will no longer be free.Exploitation is easy when people are hungry and destitute.Just look at the lives of battered women,they cannot feed their kids without the batterers paycheck...


Food security is described as a situation in which people do not live in hunger or fear of starvation.
Because the system that keeps them starving is not touched in any way.
And it is a system that is deliberately keeping starvation real. The fact is that food production in the world is capable of feeding more than double the current world population, some 12 billion people could be fed by current food production levels. So it is, as Diouf of the FAO said, a matter of the lack of political will.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Sam-and-Esther-starvation-in-the-midst-of-plenty-is-the-real-pornography

The day we cannot walk to pick berries or fish and prepare our own safe food the corporate rich pigs will truly own humanity,for to sustain life one must eat and if all sources of food and water are dead/toxic they will truly own us for individual & community food sufficiency is one way we stay free people..
Anyway Felix Numinous,I love your DU handle.


http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49c3646cec.html
http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/wto/OpposeWTO.html
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:30 PM
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34. Thanks
for those interesting links! :)

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:58 PM
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35. Experts have always said there would be a "tipping point".
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 06:59 PM by SoCalDem
:shrug:
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 07:05 PM
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36. I'm waiting to hear what Kirk Cameron thinks about it.
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vduhr Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 07:22 PM
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37. He probably doesn't care....
he thinks he'll be raptured first.
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