The man who gave us NAFTA, opposed HCR and financial reform is now chief of staff. Nothing changes

[still_one]

There should be no doubt about Obama's views now

[Poboy]

1. None whatsoever. Obama IS working AGAINST us.

Let there be no doubt.

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. Bush was stupid which is why he surrounded himself with ideologues.

What is Obama's excuse?

[Poboy]

33. MONEY baby...big time money and profits for the well connected!

Fuck us!

[molly77]

68. Obama does not need an excuse

He has no power . His chief of staff likes the Third Way. Google it. Another clinton appt.

When Obama was campaigning in the primaries, he was drawing thousands. Hillary was seen in diners shaking hands with people who barely looked up . Chris Mathews was calling her the inevitable next president. She was the one who was supposed to win on the clinton legacy of a better economy. "They" thought that the american people would forget the abominable clinton policies.

Matt Taibbi could barely contain his mirth, during the primaries, interviewing a middle aged white woman who was voting for hillary. The reason given, "She is going to bring back jobs." Recently hillary was seen in Brazil with the new female president. They both want to bring back the middle class. It would be fitting , since her husband was a mover and shaker in destroying the middle class.

[The Backlash Cometh]

70. I don't know what to think about the Clintons.

Their ideas of stirring up commerce were downright reckless, and maybe, in some cases, criminal. I look back now and wonder how they couldn't know the negative impact they would have on the lives of the people who believed in them. I mean, the powerless people who believed in them. Not the people who were doing well from knowing them.

[leveymg]

42. Oh, ye of so little faith! This is Level 11 of Obama's chess game. Behold!

[whistler162]

58. So you are a Republican or a Tea Bagger!

which is it?

[hlthe2b]

2. well, though he disagrees with Daly, Dean gave him his stamp

of approval, citing Daly's ability to be an "honest broker."

I am alarmed at the selection, but I've not known Howard Dean to pander to the administration. :shrug:

[still_one]

6. I don't agree with Dean on this. /nt

[Erose999]

17. I've not known Dean as one to burn bridges either. Although a lot of bridges have been burned by

others on his behalf.

[Enthusiast]

47. I disagree with Dean completely.

Glad to know where he stands with regards to my enemies.

[obxhead]

62. So when he screws us he won't lie about it.

Change we can believe in. :eyes:

[kentuck]

3. Did Obama make this decision?

Or did someone else make it for him? The same people that picked Tim Geithner, perhaps?

[Poboy]

5. Poor, poor Obama. He is but mere captive and 'victim', just like us!

I support those who sell me out.

:sarcasm:

[still_one]

7. You are joking right? /nt

[former9thward]

20. Richard Daley made the decision.

The same guy who picked Rahm Emanuel as the original COS, the same guy who picked his brother to be the new COS, the same guy who picked Obama to be U.S. Senator, and the same guy who picked Rahm to come back to Chicago and take his place.

[yodermon]

28. wait... *Daley* picked all those guys?

So he's been the grand conspirator behind the curtain the whole time?

[former9thward]

34. Ahh if you have lived in Chicago and have been involved in politics

there is no conspiracy about it. It is very out in the open.

[roguevalley]

22. I love ya, Kentuck, but i think he had a hand in his chief of staff.

[Cherchez la Femme]

26. Denial ain't just a river in....

well, you know

[tavalon]

66. He made his own damn decision and through it, he is revealing what we already knew

He just isn't into us anymore.

[meow mix]

4. no doubts here.. and as a rule i do not support pinos or linos

we been had. well played mr obama

[still_one]

8. I am more moderate than most here, and I feel I have been had /nt

[MuseRider]

10. I get it now

the magical, brilliant chess game was against us!

[ProSense]

11. Well, I knew it was going to happen when Dean

endorsed him.

[still_one]

12. Doesn't mean Dean is right. Daly is NOT for the little guy /nt

[ProSense]

14. I didn't say Dean is right.

I think he's wrong, but we'll see.

[still_one]

16. We will, and I didn't mean to imply that you inferred Dean was right, I was only speaking for myself

Sorry, if I confused it

[hlthe2b]

19. I can't help but note...

that this is the first instance I have seen where you are openly questioning a decision of the administration. No insult intended, I assure you. I just find it noteworthy. FWIW, I agree with you on this one. This selection seems to me to be not only unwise, but sending ALL the wrong messages.

[Enthusiast]

48. I noticed also.

Unwise selection but par for the course.

[obxhead]

64. I noticed the same.

Prosense has been the most rabid obama supporter on this site.

We're doomed now I tell ya. Doomed!

[Cherchez la Femme]

27. So it's DEAN'S fault?

Good to know! :eyes:

[Le Taz Hot]

44. Dean is loyal to the Democratic Party.

No mystery to this. I love him but I wish he'd knock it off -- he needs to be the honest man he is and speak out honestly.

[somone]

13. So he keeps hiring bad people - somebody is forcing him

obviously :sarcasm:

[Enthusiast]

49. It is a possibility.

I am looking for some explanation for Obama's questionable decision making from 'looking forward' to extending tax cuts for the wealthy. But he doesn't appear to be overly stressed out as if he was being coerced by dark forces beyond our knowing. I have come to believe the worst about the President. I simply can't ignore all these contradictions.

[Recursion]

15. He's comfortable with Chicagoans

Less so with east and west coasters.

[roguevalley]

24. I think he's comfortable with moderate to conservatives who

think he's a great guy. I think he got the nobel too early= the you aren't bush prize- and his ego is out there ahead of his 'vision'. Or else I'm wrong and he's just a DINO like it appears. SIGH! I remember when dems were dems and didn't give a damn.

[Name removed]

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[Earth_First]

21. I love getting screwed from both directions...

:eyes:

[Mimosa]

23. No doubt at all, sad to say.

No real change.

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[treestar]

29. He gave us NAFTA?

All by himself?

[walldude]

30. No he was just Chairman of the NAFTA task force

http://www.counterpunch.org/clinton03082008.html

So he really didn't do anything with NAFTA and the JP Morgan, Chase, Bank One thing, well I'm sure he has your best interest at heart. Like Obama said, the man loves this country. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[EFerrari]

32. There is a tweet going around that on Fox, Rove approved.

Unfortunately, I can't tell if it's a joke or if it's real. lol

ThePlumLineGS Greg Sargent by ggreenwald
And of course he has the WH's best interests at heart RT @fshakir On Fox News, Karl Rove gives William Daley his ringing endorsement
48 minutes ago

[RockaFowler]

31. I guess so

[superduperfarleft]

36. Swing and a miss!

You get an e for effort, though.

[Enthusiast]

50. LMAO! nt

[whistler162]

59. Also stole everything from Al Capone's vault so poor poor

Mr. Rivera found nothing!

[Odin2005]

35. If voting changed anything they would make it illegal. --Emma Goldman

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x444782

[smiley]

55. +1000

[Carolina]

37. to those who have said

give BHO a chance, more time, blah, blah, blah... this once again proves who he is and what he supports. My grandfather always warned us as kids about the company we kept being a reflection of us. Well same holds true for BHO. His choices of advisors and inner circlers from day one (Geithner, Summers...) have told the story and the saga, the same sorry saga, continues with Daley replacing Rahm :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: puke: :puke:

[Enthusiast]

52. While they were screaming "Look over here

at Obama, he is palling around with terrorists like William Ayers.", they were essentially saying, "Look over here at Obama with left wing terrorists but don't look over there at a far more dangerous Obama because he is palling around with right wing neo-con types."

[whistler162]

60. Yup he is a Democrat what are you?

[Carolina]

63. INDEPENDENT

now!

[xchrom]

38. recommend

[cascadiance]

39. Obama has only ONE chance left to get elected to an office again!

And that is 2012. People will dump him like a bad habit after being FORCED to vote for him then since the DLC strategy is to corner us where we "don't have any other choice". I certainly wouldn't vote for him EVER again after that, IF I vote for him then! He's NOT to be trusted!

[Jakes Progress]

45. The campaign strategy for 2012 is clear.

We suck, but look how bad the other guys suck. How in the world will the republicans come up with two worse candidates than they did last time? It would take something like an issa/reanimated hitler pairing to be more scary.

[smiley]

56. left and right do not exist

it's a one party system and all the candidates are running for one purpose. Bring down the common man.

[dreamnightwind]

40. Apologies in advance

but I'm curious so I will ask.

I don't know a whole lot about the Daleys. Mob connections? Anyone know?

[BzaDem]

41. It's amazing how you don't see the contradiction in your own post.

If "Obama's views" are to oppose HCR and financial reform, and he hired Daley because of these views, then why did Obama sign both bills? Why did he spend basically his entire first two years pushing for them?

Either you like HCR/FinReg, which means you should give Obama credit for passing them, or you don't like them, which means you should hardly be criticizing a new appointee who "opposes them."

[Jakes Progress]

43. It's amazing how you toss out terms like reform

without understanding that we really got neither health care reform nor financial reform. We got bills and PR department memos that called what we got reform, but most of us know better.

[Little Star]

51. We did not get the HCR and financial reform that...

the people (especially Dems) wanted. We got Obama's view of them and his view is a piss poor substitute.

[Enthusiast]

46. K&R

There is no doubt in my mind.

[blindpig]

53. How many times do people need to be hit over the head?

Gotta be willful delusion. Might have something to do with class identifiation.

[Fire1]

54. Also a former CEO of JP Morgan Chase. n/t

[elleng]

57. Funny, I thought 'Big Dog' 'gave us' NAFTA.

Guess I'm confused.

[demwing]

61. How many ways does Obama have to say

"Fuck You" before we start listening?

[AlbertCat]

65. Trying to get in on the "Clinton Years" success story!

Because using the same people and using the same ideas from 30 years ago is soooooo progressive and not conservative at all!

Good luck with that!

[russspeakeasy]

67. There hasn't been any doubt for quite a few months.

[DainBramaged]

69. And the cries from the peanut gallery remain stifled....

You MUST stand behind him, he knows what's best for us, he plays 87 dimension chess with the Republicans who just so happen to have eaten our lunch and put a Boner back in charge. So much for checkmate.