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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:03 PM Original message |
President Obama: No Whistleblowing on My Watch |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Once again: What would we ALL be saying if it was Bush doing this? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. That he has a lot to hide and will be held accountable for it when it gets |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. The same damn thing I am saying when Obama does it. This is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. We should realize that the govt. is fascist |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
91. Molly has it, corporate Fascist serving the corporate interest |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
101. it goes back further than 2000... |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 07:06 AM Response to Reply #49 |
130. That is one of the differences |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
73. Why would we be saying anything different? Wrong is wrong, no matter whether the guy doing it |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
104. "based only on party affiliation"... |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #104 |
115. New Democrat? I was a Bobby Kennedy supporter when I was twelve. BUT, I am not a Democrats-are- |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:25 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I hoped my smiley face... |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #116 |
166. Okay. I understand, but suggest you use the :sarcasm: gif so I get it next time... |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 02:42 AM Response to Reply #115 |
123. Very well said...the only thing I'd add to that |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #123 |
167. Agreed. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #115 |
154. self delete- |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
100. you know the answer to that... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
161. The core problem is, Bush and Obama are behaving the same. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. "It's 13 dimensional chess hope and change to bring transparency" or something like that. |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
111. LOL |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. Nice... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. He should totally use this defense at his court-martial..... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Details, details... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I know--how dare I actually point out that Manning had recourse-- |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Except he didn't really. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Yes--he did have legal recourse. He chose to eschew it. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
62. What are those procedures? |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
109. The point is that this alleged whistle blower got the truth out |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
157. No, he didn't. He reported the war crimes he witnessed to his superiors. |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
74. You need to practice what you teach. If Manning is the one who handed over the |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #74 |
117. Details, details... |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
92. except... |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
103. The book deal occured in December. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
153. Manning can see into the future? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
156. Well, if you had brought up facts it would be fine. Manning |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. What does Assange's book deal have to do with anything? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. As a private, (because of demotion, post-assaulting another soldier) he had recourse |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You didn't answer my first question, just added more of the same that prompted my question in the |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. I did answer your question. Pvt Manning had legal recourse that he chose |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. He did choose extra-legal means, which is generally what a "whistleblower" does. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. Right. Just like Daniel Elsberg did. Does the military justice system permit a GI |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
82. Ho can you be so absolutely certain about everything? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
86. Would you be defending the government's actions |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
105. You certainly have chosen the right handle for yourself. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. I'm thinking that too. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
59. "I hope Wikileaks gets around to donating to his defense fund" Really? Have you donated or .... |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. While he most likely deserves... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #68 |
138. Why is anyone here opposed to exposing lies? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #138 |
163. It's the classic "My Country: Extreme Right and Wrong" |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
162. He witnessed war crimes and reported them to his superiors. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
159. He did report the crimes to his chain of command. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
160. "he had recourse through his chain of command" |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. See my posts above, he did report the crimes, he was, as you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. If Manning released the troops helicopter video do you think he should be shot for treason? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. I think he should face court-martial for his actions, with charges and |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. And if the JAG decides that Manning should be executed for "treason" you'd have no problem with that |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
97. And what penalties does our Government get then for their illegal actions? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 07:37 AM Response to Reply #28 |
134. And why wouldn't your FIRST consideration be to deal with the war crimes exposed in that video? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
147. He isn't being charged with treason. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Um, he didn't hand the material over to a guy with a book deal. n/t |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. And even if he did, it's completely irrelevant. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Yep. It's not an argument, it's just a smear. n/t |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Pretty much. And I have yet to get an answer as to why people think it constitutes an argument. n/t |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Manning was and is an immature KID. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. I think that's a very interesting point.... |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Why do you hate him? Do you wish the helicopter video had never come to light? (nt) |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
63. Would someone more "mature" NOT have taken action to correct illegal behavior? |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. No they would not have. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
114. No, that is not even close. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 01:20 AM Response to Reply #72 |
120. A younger person tends to be idealistic and less likely to 'look out for himself' |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
98. I understand that hundreds of people had access to the same information. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. Perhaps he's not as trusting of the Establishment ... |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. WTF does that have to do with anything? |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
53. First of all the book deal was made after the handing of the docs. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. What, you don't have a direct line into the World Court? |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 01:24 AM Response to Reply #53 |
121. Walldude, you sound like somebody who's been following the game since Vietnam. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
80. He should use 100,000 dead Iraqi's for a war-for-profit as his defense, as well as |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
83. Assange did not have a book deal when Manning provided |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
84. he hasn't been indicted |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
119. There is a difference between being |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
145. He can also explain how/why he ended up releasing hundreds of thousands of unrelated docs. n/t |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. Is the video of the helicopter attack the only thing Manning is alleged to have leaked?... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Allegedly |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Which have also yielded illegal activity even in the small number |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. But that's the shotgun approach... |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
96. He needed help sifting... |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. You really want his ass |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 01:38 AM Response to Reply #48 |
122. Truthfully, I couldn't care less about Manning... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. Obama just made himself "the Man." |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
99. What it reveals about his thinking is not in agreement with my values. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. Well, "Transparency" made a real nice campaign slogan..like "change" and "hope". |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
93. And my personal favorite "restoring the rule of law" |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #93 |
136. Unfortunately, my cynicism about Obama has been validated |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
20. "America's ongoing war on everything" . . . . . |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. It's War Theater. The purpose isn't actually to wage war, |
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The Green Manalishi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
151. Fool, Traitor, Heretic! |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
22. This is unconscionable. Rec'd with sadness. n/t |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. I remember seeing that video a long time ago. Years ago. On the tv news |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
38. Bradley is as much a hero as Cheney is. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Really? What was the purely political motive behind the wikileaks release? n/t |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Ask Manning. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. So why did you state that they were similar as if you know for a fact that was the case? n/t |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. How 'bout a good old murder coverup? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Outing a CIA agent who stands in the way of your war based on lies.. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Do all 250,000 cables contain evidence of mass crime and corruption?...nt |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. You don't know? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
76. I liked you because I felt you appreciated dark humor and satire when you saw it. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
88. Did every single page of the Pentagon Papers contain the same? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. But the laws broken are the same. Your opinion of the motives matters not. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. So is someone who steals bread to feed his family the same as a guy who shoplifts it even though he |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. Bradley is as big a criminal as Cheney. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. dumb da dumb dumb |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
67. True..... |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
94. They're the same people.... Well, except for motive, intent, results, and the fact that one was a |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 04:35 AM Response to Reply #38 |
125. Many words in your message do not mean what you think they do, "hero" and "same" among them. |
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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
51. IF Pfc Manning reported this to a military official, then he should be ok. If he gave it to |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. IF Pfc Manning reported this to a military official, then he acted legally. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
108. "pfc. manning is not a private citizen and must follow military protocol." Not in this case! |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
55. No Whistleblowing on My Watch |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
102. I can't imagine being proud of that statement he made. It tells a lot. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
58. His fans should hope his lawyers come up with something better than this |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. Do you have any opinions not twisted around support for the president? |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
65. Wait a second! There is Whistleblower Protection for all federally financed projects! |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
69. Better Believe it, you shuld be commended for continuuing to speak |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. +++ I'll second that |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #69 |
170. You said it. |
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theaocp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
71. K&R - Memo to all haters: |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
77. not all of the information has been released |
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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
78. He's not a whistleblower, it was a crime |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS, together, serve to show a pattern and practice of criminal behavior. |
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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #81 |
139. And you know each document was necessary? How? n/t |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #139 |
168. Just like any criminal investigation, some evidence will be thrown out. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Are you summarizing or mocking the losing position here? /nt |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Nope. Just joining in the mindlessness. |
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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #85 |
137. Disagree with anything in my post? n/t |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #137 |
143. Yes, I disagree with you. |
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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #143 |
149. Okay |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #149 |
150. Fair enough. I don't agree. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
79. I'd go along with Manning as Whistleblower IF he had read all 250,000+ documents he turned over to |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. It would have taken him years.. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #90 |
141. Yep, and... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 06:51 AM Response to Reply #79 |
128. Don't know how whistle blowing works, do you? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
89. Manning is a true hero, unlike the cowards who excuse the crimes. |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
95. I am done with him now. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
106. The UCMJ, the Constitution, the laws of the states and the nation, |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
107. K&R |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
112. And this delayed undeclared war for wealthy resources has to cease. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
113. Legal Question: Has he been indicted? |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #113 |
118. The military doesn't have a legal process called an indictment |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
124. If I was in Manning's spot, I would've disclosed the government breaking International Law. |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 05:21 AM Response to Original message |
126. So Bush like........absolutely sickening |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 05:39 AM Response to Original message |
127. The power of the corporate/military |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
129. manning is not a whistler blower. he was not going after anything specific. he was fishing |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #129 |
140. And if he'd been highly selective in what he released? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #140 |
144. if manning saw a crime (not gossip) and tried to get crime addressed and was ignored |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #144 |
146. No, it's isn't "plain and simple" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. oh wait, i get it. your plain and simple is plain and simple where as |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
131. Where is the quote that was implied in the title? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
132. War crimes were being committed and covered up ... let's deal wih that reality!! |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #132 |
158. That would be too messy and friendships would be damaged. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
133. K & R n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
142. The article is incorrect. Manning has been charged: |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
152. Whistle blowing needs to be protected. nt |
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ProfessionalLeftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
155. Yet when he was running for office he declared whistleblowers would be protected... |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
165. No one should be surprised by this president's response. |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
169. Obushma does it again. I sure Obama could get the guy out of solitary if he wanted too. |
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