Sarah Palin's Rifle Scope Map marking Giffords

[paparush]

Source: Facebook

We’re paying particular attention to those House members who voted in favor of Obamacare and represent districts that Senator John McCain and I carried during the 2008 election. Three of these House members are retiring – from Arkansas’s 2nd district, Indiana’s 8th district, and Tennessee’s 6th district – but we’ll be working to make sure that those who replace them are Commonsense Conservatives. The others are running for re-election, and we’re going to hold them accountable for this disastrous Obamacare vote. They are: Ann Kirkpatrick (AZ-1), Harry E. Mitchell (AZ-5), Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8), John Salazar (CO-3), Betsy Markey (CO-4). Allen Boyd (FL-2), Suzanne M. Kosmas (FL-24), Baron P. Hill (IN-9), Earl Pomeroy (ND-AL), Charlie Wilson (OH-6), John Boccieri (OH-16), Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3), Christopher Carney (PA-10), John M. Spratt, Jr. (SC-5), Tom Perriello (VA-5), Alan B. Mollohan (WV-1), and Nick J. Rahall II (WV-3).

We’ll aim for these races and many others. This is just the first salvo in a fight to elect people across the nation who will bring common sense to Washington. Please go to sarahpac.com and join me in the fight.

Read more: http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/dont-get-demoralized-get-organized-take-back-the-20/373854973434

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QUOTE - We'll aim for these races..

[tekisui]

1. I was just going to post this. knr,

[SpiralHawk]

2. Ugly ugly ugly republicon-Palin incitement to violence

ugly ugly ugly republiconism

[calimary]

118. VERY ugly. Murderously ugly.

Murderously ugly republi-CONs.

They need to be blamed and shamed. Publicly. And as Olbermann said, shunned and ignored.

There must be no advantage or benefit or plus or payoff to what they've been doing and saying and amping up the rhetoric of anger, hatred, and violence. Incitement politics. There MUST be consequences. As God is my witness I don't know how to do that, especially with the monolithic media noise machine our side is up against. Thank God some people have actually dared to broach the subject, and point the finger where it needs to be pointed. Point fingers, not guns.

And THANK GOD for that Arizona sheriff who said what needed to be said about the culture of hatespeak in the media (especially radio). And who/what dominates talk radio anymore? Certainly not anybody on OUR side.

It needs to be said.

It needs to be said.

Again and again and again. Rub their noses in it til it seeps deeply down into the American mindset.

[MineralMan]

3. Aw Jeez!

You won't see this on Fox.

[Raschel]

76. Theyr'e reporting it on Yahoo news.

[pokerfan]

80. Palin's map updated

[Cid_B]

137. I dunno...

Seems a bit more like this to me...

[pokerfan]

147. the word tragedy

To me a tragedy is an earthquake or hurricane. A natural disaster or something unforeseen. This was a politician putting a "metaphorical" (WINK!) political hit list and finding a lunatic crazy enough to take her up on it. Tragedy doesn't seem like the right word to me.

[CountAllVotes]

4. my gawd!

This sh*t has got to stop and it has got to stop NOW!

ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!

:kick:

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. Let's see what Palin has to say about this one.

[Angry Dragon]

7. She will have nothing to say about it

as she has said nothing about the death panels that brewer has going

[sabrina 1]

59. She has issued a statement of condolence, but so far has not

referred to her 'target map of Democrats':

My sincere condolences are offered to the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the other victims of today's tragic shooting in Arizona.

On behalf of Todd and my family, we all pray for the victims and their families, and for peace and justice.

- Sarah Palin

She needs to go away before she gets anyone else killed. And I hope that those on her target list have been given protection. This is how she lines her pockets. Inciting the fringe elements of society with violent lingo. People are turned on by such talk.

[fasttense]

124. Maybe she should have done some praying for peace and justice before she

blew the dog whistle for her half crazed lunatic Tea-baggers to start shooting.

Just maybe a little talk about peace and justice for all with no shooting metaphors might have been safer for everyone.

But no, she's been taught by the RepubliCONS and Rupert to rile up the crazies, just like they do with the anti-abortion murderers, anti-choice terrorists and the religiously insane.

What she and Fox Noise have done is yell fire in a crowded theater and stand back and wonder why people got trampled to death. Then they get together in private and slap each other on the back for the death and carnage.

[paparush]

6. Palin's language - Taking aim, firing the first salvo in this fight, etc.....

Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Coulter, et al, are and have been, inciting citizens to violence.

[tblue37]

77. One of her most famous lines: "Don't retreat, reload. " nt

[tavalon]

108. Dog whistles

Baiting the stupid and deranged.

[harvey007]

8. Palin has blood on her hands

Animal and human blood.

[Change Happens]

9. I blame Palin, McConnell, Boehner, and their Fox News enablers for this!

[deacon]

11. I'm with you-they promote this stuff. Monsters. n/t

[soleft]

135. Don't forget "Whites of their Eyes" Bachmann

She also said she wanted her constinuency armed and dangerous.

[treestar]

10. The rest on that list need bodyguards.

[paparush]

12. Angry Lefties march, carry signs, sing songs. Angry Righties shoot people in the head.

[molly77]

130. Good idea. Angry Righties shoot people in the head. Keeper.

[Cleita]

13. This needs to be sent to all leaders of both parties.

The Republicans need to rein in their high profile candidates and spokespeople before there is more tragedy. I was very worried about Palin's rhetoric on "time to lock and load" as a veiled invitation to RW crazies to do just that. I never saw the map until now.

[JNelson6563]

18. Yes, when it hits one of them, it might wake them up.

Now that an actual Congresswoman is dead it might wake their asses up to what madness is being promoted.

Julie

[highplainsdem]

14. Someone posted on Palin's Facebook wall about 20 minutes ago about Giffords having been on

that disgusting map, and linked to a HuffPo article about it and wanted Palin to respond. That post was quickly removed from the wall.

Palin hasn't posted anything about this yet.

There's another brief post about this now -- well, there was. That has now been removed, within a few minutes.

They're watching her wall very closely to keep all mention of Giffords being on that map off the page.

[highplainsdem]

15. Another post on it now:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?iref=allsearch

when are you going to take a stand and realize your language and rhetoric is too much!!! Stand up Sarah be a leader and realize your words kill
2 seconds ago · Like · Comment

[highplainsdem]

27. That's now been removed, along with another post accusing Palin of inciting violence.

[tblue37]

78. Her wall should be FLOODED with such comments--so many they can't keep

up with them!

[PatrynXX]

101. CNN"s been doing alot of that

throughout the day. getting to be about as bad as fox at curbing public opinion. msnbc has a better track record of allowing both sides to have their say. :(

[tavalon]

110. I think we need to keep her busy scrubbing her wall tonight

I'll admit I find it absurd that a supposedly mature politician would spend so much time on Facebook, but there it is.

[felix_numinous]

16. Kick

This needs to be on every front page.

[LynneSin]

17. I hope this is presented at the trial for this asshole

:grr:

[obxhead]

51. I hope this asshole gets a trial and is not disposed of before his

actions and motivations for them are brought to light fully.

[Desertrose]

19. X's are one thing...crosshairs quite another.

I sure wouldn't want your karma, Sarah.

[RegieRocker]

22. those aren't X's look at them again.

Look at this X now look at the crosshairs. Cross is the operative word here.

[Desertrose]

73. Umm......that WAS my point. They ARE crosshairs...

as in TARGETS.

[highplainsdem]

Link to Palin's Facebook wall. Click the link there for "Sarah Palin + Others"

to see comments that people are posting, not just her own official posts.

http://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin?v=wall

[paparush]

23. Another DUer pointed out that her page is quickly being cleansed of any

mention of Giffords.

[RegieRocker]

26. yep that would indicate

what? Guilt.

[highplainsdem]

35. That may have been my post, a few replies back. I've been watching her Facebook wall,

which gets new criticism of her every few minutes, criticism which vanishes within a few minutes.

I've posted the text of some of those comments (after removing the names) in this topic, but there are too many to keep posting them here.

And the last time I checked there were two discussion threads about this on her Discussions page. "Time to End the Violent Rhetoric" as well as the earlier "Are ya happy now, Sarah Palin?" thread.

Still haven't heard anything from the MSM about that map targeting Giffords.

[polly7]

55. Curiosity got the best of me so I had a look .... go to the discussions page ...

lots to see there.

[kid a]

20. I forwarded this thread and poster link to all the pundit shows, huff po, etc.

sad day

[onecent]

41. Great kid a...I was hoping to hear that from someone. it

needs to be out to the mainstream media.

[paparush]

21. This MUST end Palin's career.

[chimpymustgo]

25. You are so right. K&R.

[RegieRocker]

28. It should end a lot of people careers.

[fishwax]

104. one would hope -- though I'm not convinced it actually will

:kick:

[Jester Messiah]

138. The best way for her career to end is in a jail cell.

Now, how do we make it happen?

[jillan]

24. I Suggest that everyone save this right now, because you can be sure that Palin is working hard to

have this scrubbed right now.

[paparush]

30. I immediately right clicked and Save-As on that map/picture and saved it off

to my hard drive and then uploaded to Imgur.com, thinking her staff would immediately start scrubbing.

[bullwinkle428]

29. The media will totally fucking ignore this angle of the story - just you watch.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[paparush]

31. Negative posts in a Discussion on her FB page - "Are you Happy Sarah Palin?"

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=24718773587&topic=24766

[highplainsdem]

32. Three more posts about this from Palin's Facebook wall.

I'm leaving the names off because even though these posts will almost certainly be removed quickly, if I post the names here some Palinut might harass them:

I hope you are satisfied with todays happening's. Maybe your message of hate will stop and maybe you will rethink your crazy actions. She was on YOUR list of districts to take back. I hope you sleep well tonight.

Murderer...you will be held accountable for the murder of Congress women Gabrilelle Gifford

So my comment was removed. So much about holding up the Constitution and freedom of speech, huh? Again, I wonder how Ms. Palin NOW feels about her bull-eye pic of various people. Ms. Gifford was #4 on her list. Any 'RELOAD' comments now?

[ctwayne]

95. Material Support for Terrorism

Ms. Palin is clearly giving material support for terrorism. She should be arrested under the Patriot Act and sent to Guantanamo Bay to be water boarded.

[Cherchez la Femme]

146. "Sarah Palin refreshes the Tree of Liberty with the blood of 9 year olds."

in case it all doesn't show:

"Sarah Palin refreshes the Tree of Liberty with the blood of 9 year olds." thread title


Pithy.

[Kingofalldems]

33. And Fox News hired her

[paparush]

34. Link to Gifford's gun-wielding opponent in the 2010 mid-terms -

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2011/1/8/13371/41091/21#c21

[madmax]

122. Wonder how Jesse Kelly feels today. nt

[ChairmanAgnostic]

143. probably glad that he lost,

and that he can go camping in the wild for the next 6 months.

[Bozita]

36. Guarantee: The MSM will never find that graphic from Sarah!

[Lucian]

37. Tea Party schedule from last summer:

[Bozita]

38. +1

[Raschel]

89. Oh, that's awful.

[Raschel]

90. That should be sent to the news media.

[jimlup]

39. Have we reached the tipping point?

Are we closing in on it. Their incite to violence has finally born fruit. Fucking pigs.

[obxhead]

54. Not finally, but once again. nt

[TBF]

40. K&R nt

[MissDeeds]

42. A rifle scope map?

Wonder where the hell "Agent Mike" was on this one. The message Palin's sending is pretty clear.

[wpelb]

43. How about the judge that got shot?

He was a George H.W. Bush appointee. Was he an innocent victim? What was he doing there to begin with?

We've yet to hear the whole story, that's for sure. Don't be surprised if we never get the full truth.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

44. On the crawl on Fox Palin gave her condolences

for Gabrielle Giffords, like Gabrielle was dead. Fox seemed concerned about what the shooter shouted out before he opened fire. I want Palin, Fox, Rush to be held accountable.

I don't normally watch Fox news, but wanted to see how they were covering their dirty work.

[BrklynLiberal]

50. **PUKE**

[RoccoR5955]

45. That makes her guilty of collusion in an act of attempted homocide.

at the very least.
Frog March for Sarah and her Teabagger buddies!

[AngryOldDem]

46. My kid just showed me that graphic on Facebook, and Giffords' name was crossed out in red.

Dunno who did it.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

47. The SarahPAC graphic is up at rachel's blog.

[DinahMoeHum]

48. G*D HELP SARAH PALIN AND THE TEABAGGERS

if Giffords dies.

What I have to say next is not fit to be mentioned here.

[BrklynLiberal]

49. I hope this gets the barracuda the "publicity" she so richly deserves..

[StopTheNeoCons]

52. K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R,

K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R, K and R,

[LawnKorn]

53. Palin was clearly trolling for some right wing nut job to suddenly get a bright idea

One of those mind numb robots with nothing better to do than listen to AM talk radio all the time gets the message. Next thing we see is some Timothy McVeigh want-to-be breaks out the deer rifle he bought at Wal Mart and goes to work.

Palin will claim she has no control over nut jobs, even if they worship her.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

91. bingo

well said.

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[RandomKoolzip]

57. Nice try, dude.

:thumbsdown:

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[bigwillq]

62. Palin did publicly advocate violence

with that ad. And now folks are dead and injured because of it.

[paparush]

68. She could have used red dots. She could have used question marks.

She could have used golden unicorns.

But she didn't.

She lauds her gun-toting, hunting, "real american" side and she used rifle scopes to mark her targets.

[Name removed]

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[Bluebear]

75. Oh, good, we needed a gun expert to sign up & explain it all for us.

Thank you!

[liberation]

83. Valiant effort, I'll give you 6 out of 10

nice concern trolling.

[efhmc]

84. She is that stupid and that evil. Get a clue.

[grahamhgreen]

58. To me the gun sights convey shoot-to-kill, or is there some other meaning?

[Anakin Skywalker]

65. Scumbag Sarah is obsessed with shooting and killing things! That's all!

[Anakin Skywalker]

63. Please pass the SarahPac picture around the web for all to see. Hold the rightwing responsible.....

for their incitement!

[Mad_Dem_X]

64. I am literally sick to my stomach.

FUCK those neocons and their psychotic followers! :nuke:

[Politicub]

66. They played fast and lose with gun/assassination imagery and terminology

They knew what they were doing. The people running these campaigns aren't stupid.

If anything, today's heinous act will only cause them to ratchet things up as a result of being intoxicated with their false sense of power.

[Zambero]

67. A truly despicable woman

Note that Palin proclaimed her target map as only a "first salvo". Well, today's senseless shootings serve as ample proof that her (and Glenn Beck's) provocations are not going unheeded.

[upi402]

69. DOJ is AWOL n/t

[RichGirl]

71. Let's not forget...

Sharon Angle's "second ammendment remedy". Someone needs to ask her if this situation is what she was talking about.

[tblue37]

79. After McVeigh, some RWers toned their rhetoric down a bit, but after

Dr. Tiller was murdered, they didn't. I wonder whether this one will convince them to be a little less cavalier about inciting violence against Democrats and liberals.

[B Calm]

72. She's no different than any the "Right-Wing Terrorists" that pollute the air waves!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

102. "may be free speech, but it's not without consequences." - Pima Co. Sheriff

As if Sheriff Dupnik is unaware of Palin's "vitriol"...

8:33 p.m. ET: Saying he can't take any more questions, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik ends his part of the news conference with another statement about the nature of the political discourse in the nation today:

"The vitriol we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living doing that .... That may be free speech, but it's not without consequences."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/01/08/13276480 ...

[Joey Liberal]

74. Palin is a terrorist. So is Rush and Faux News. nt

[Raschel]

81. Didn't Palin just say the other day that the President was trying to "take down the country"?

This just feeds the right wing nuts, stirs them up so she can make money.

It also messes with the heads of those who have psychotic episodes.

Her rhetoric is way over the top and has never been called out by any of the media, or other politicians for that matter.

[sasquuatch55]

82. There you go; inciting the lunitics to do your bidding from Ivory Towers!

nt

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

85. I'm just waiting for some newsman to say, "Both sides do it."

Hear me Anderson Cooper? There is a time when this false moral equivalency you and your ilk practice has got to stop. What the Republicans do -- lie, harass Democratic candidates, yell "You lie!" at the State of the Union address, steal elections -- is in no way duplicated by the Democrats. Assassinations: JFK, RFK, MLK -- all Democrats. "But what about Reagan?" Shot by the son of people who had intimate ties with the Bush family.

This was an assassination attempt by a mentally disturbed person who has been fed a constant diet of hatred by Fox News, Hannity, O'Reilly, Palin, Limbaugh, et.al. Let's see how fast they distance themselves from the result of their hate-filled message.

[Enthusiast]

125. 'false moral equivalency' is a big part of the problem,nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

86. Palin's site www.takebackthe20.com Server Not Found

Palin's site: http://www.takebackthe20.com/

"Server not found" (4:09 pm PST)

[tavalon]

111. Her people (or she, herself) do not understand the internet

That horsey has left the barn. Taking the barn down, doesn't scrub the horseshit. There are so many of us out here more than ready to offer up her graphic to a grand jury.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

87. Only Rahal and Giffords remain in Congress on map; Rahal still alive as far as is known

Palin targetted 20 Democrats with shooting target crosshairs.

18 were defeated in elections. Two remained in Congress.

What the electorate chose not to do, a gunman tried to overturn.

As far as is known, Rahal is still alive.

[paparush]

88. From Twitter- Angry Muslim shooter is a terrorist but an angry white Christian shooter...

@scottdagostino Remember: angry Muslim shooter is a terrorist but an angry white Christian shooter is...hey, it's complicated, okay? Don't rush to judgment!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

92. Giffords was concerned about this map as of March 25, 2010

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords certainly thought the map was newsworthy. This is what she told MSNBC on March 25, 2010:

"...for example, we're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district, and when people do that, they've gotta realize there are consequences to that action."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/is-palins-crosshairs-map_b_806277.html

edited for typo

[James48]

93. NOTE: Giffords was the first one still in office.

If you work down the list,

#1 retired.

# 2 was defeated in November.

#3 was defeated in November.

#4 was the next one on the list, and the one this guy chose to try to kill.

[Initech]

94. I swear to god every time I see the term Obamacare, I get enraged.

[BrightKnight]

115. I am way beyond enraged.

I would never hurt anyone but it is not because I lack the anger. The MSM and and most of the people here have been screaming bloody murder about this since before the election. It was cold blooded mass murder and she should be held criminally accountable.

Unless they reject their brown shirt tactics this will happen again. At a certain point someone on the left will probably resort to the second amendment. This in not how a mature democracy should function.

Do NOT read anything into this! I am simply expressing my very reasonable anger and frustration.

[Scurrilous]

96. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Bernardo de La Paz]

97. Gun left at Giffords' "Corner" meeting August 2009. Fears about safety then

August 2009, an event with the same name "Congress on Your Corner":

At an event held by Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) last week, the threat of violence led her aides to call the police after one attendee dropped a gun.

"Yelling and screaming is counterproductive," she told the Sierra Vista Herald at a Congress on Your Corner event last week. There, one visitor dropped a gun at the meet n' greet held in a Douglas Safeway, her staff says.

That has aides, who called police to the event, concerned for her safety.

"We have never felt the need before to notify law enforcement when we hold these events," said spokesman C.J. Karamargin.

One of the callers to the Service Employees International Union said, "I suggest you tell your people to calm down, act like American citizens, and stop trying to repress people's First Amendment rights... That, or you all are gonna come up against the Second Amendment."

[cbdo2007]

98. "Even Jesus would never forgive what you do."

- Bob Dylan, Masters of War

[xor]

99. You know, if a democrat would have done this back in the Bush years (perhaps even now)

there would have been outrage on right about how it was terroristic and whatnots.

Even if Palin didn't have the intent to incite anyone, it still shows a lack of ability to think out consequences. Such as one of her unstable supporters interpreting it as a message to kill. At the very least, it shows that she lacks the ability to perform an intelligent analysis of possible events that would negatively affect her. She should know that there is a lot of debate about how the right is inciting people and that it would be wise to tone back rhetoric that could be harmful... If she/they don't have the foresight and intelligence to do that, then I'd hate to see how badly they could fuck up the country if they were in charge. This shit should show the republicans that she's too stupid even for them. :/

[LiberalFighter]

100. If there was a website with gun sights on her wouldn't there be an outcry

demanding it be taken down?

[pleah]

103. She should be in jail! n;/t

[indimuse]

120. agree! 100%!! nt

[GeorgeGist]

105. Pitbulls can't shoot guns

[paparush]

106. From Twitter -Who knew that telling people to "reload", "target" and "knock off" politicians...

@mkapor
Who knew that telling people to "reload", "target" and "knock off" politicians might cause them to reload, target and knock off politicians?

[xochi]

127. also from Twitter...

@MMFlint Michael Moore
If a Detroit Muslim put a map on the web w/crosshairs on 20 pols, then 1 of them got shot, where would he b sitting right now? Just asking.
5 hours ago via OpenBeak Unfavorite Undo Retweet Reply

[tavalon]

107. They've taken it off the internets

But, as usual, the Republicans don't realize that stuff like this doesn't go away. I'm sure I'm not the first person here to have a screenshot saved to my computer. It isn't going away.

[Taverner]

109. I think at the least, a SENATE evaluation is in order

Don't you?

[liberal N proud]

112. Palin is a hate-monger

With no regard for the actions her words initiate. The results are what has happened today.

[Name removed]

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[russspeakeasy]

114. Palin will be shunned long enough by her co-harts to

become irrelevant. ....as if she wasn't already... Only Fox
can revive her.

[countmyvote4real]

116. Danger! Danger, Will Robinson! Not a joke.

The hate talkers will retreat under the cloak of entertainment. It's now time for their advertisers to decide if this is what they endorse as mere entertainment when it is really killer clowns. They all need to be shunned while they wait for legal judgment.

[Imagevision]

117. No wonder Palin pulled the ad from her website 3 hours after the shootings...she

figured it would cost her sales on her current book. "America The Heartland" nationwide it could be the loss of a few million...

[indimuse]

119. ya know...

this is vERY incriminating! If you or I created a map with RIGHT WING TARGETS(hence)...WE WOULD BE IN JAIL!! PERIOD!

[karnac]

121. you mean like this?? nothing wrong with targeting. :D

or this...



I especially like when we picture punching a repug/boener/bush right here on DU during a fundraiser.!

[Hissyspit]

123. I don't see any gunsights.

And what is the source of that imagery?

Also, the vaudevillian boxing glove contraptions "we" use on DU are clearly comical. Incitement to box someone about the ears is equivalent to calling for "second amendment remedies" and asking followers to be "armed and dangerous?"

[karnac]

140. found the origin. 2004 google cache..

As we speak, any (and including sara palin's map) target maps are all being removed on the web. both republican and democrat origin. gee, i wonder why

but google cache and time machine still saves them...

here is the first..

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YOcNUdpoFCsJ:www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm%3Fcontentid%3D253055%26kaid%3D127%26subid%3D171+http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm%3Fcontentid%3D253055%26kaid%3D127%26subid%3D171&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ubuntu

The latter is a feb current DCCC map which anybody can make (with google maps)and uses common icons and markers.

Sara Palin's "bull's eye" marker is ACTUALLY a common surveyer's mark obviously chosen for looking like a bulls eye.

We can quibble all you want about what's a REALLY a target and what's not.

In fact, we SHOULD milk this incident as much as possible and take advantage of it. Pity it's not election time. Don't let it go to waste.

But keep it real at least among ourselves.

[cbdo2007]

136. Where are the words "reload" and "take aim" and the gun sights on specific people?

A target image on a state is one thing....


....telling gun supporters to "reload" and "take aim" and specific peoples names there as the targets is something else altogether. Especially when 50% of the people on Palin's map who is still a target got shot through the head yesterday.

You are correct about the punching graphic - if someone went to a Boehner rally and beat him up, and they just happened to be a DU member who had seen that graphic recently, then I agree that DU should share the blame. Free speech makes it ok to say whatever you want, but when someone takes your clear message and makes reality out of it it is up to both of you to share responsibility and possibly both be punished.

[upi402]

126. Fox News, "She voted for Obamacare...

and then under the breath "...so that's (inaudible)"

They keep talking about her as a Rebublican but turned Bluedog and voted for Obamacare.

One Foxhead said "Isn't it wonderful that we still have wonderful medical care that can treat her" -that sort of crap.

[xochi]

128. Anonymous said...if this were a school shooting,...

the person with the 'target map' would be in JAIL. Jan. 8,2011 6:43 PM http://bit.ly/h34E8D

[marias23]

129. John McCain's Role

Do not forget that Sarah Palin is the sole creation of Arizona's own John McCain.

[TBF]

132. I don't know that McCain "created" Sarah Palin - I think he was stuck with her.

But he's got to be reeling from this - he is the one who recommended Judge Roll for the federal judiciary.

"On the recommendation of Arizona U.S. Senator John McCain, Roll was nominated by President George Bush on September 23, 1991 to a seat vacated by Alfredo Marquez as Marquez assumed senior status. Roll was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on November 22, 1991 on unanimous consent of the Senate and received commission on November 25, 1991<2>. Roll served as the chief judge of the District of Arizona since 2006. Judge Roll's judicial service terminated on January 8, 2011, due to death."

http://judgepedia.org/index.php/John_Roll

[RoccoR5955]

131. HOLD HER AND HER CRONIES RESPONSIBLE

In a court of law. She thinks that because she deleted it from her website, and deleted "lock and load" tweets, that they will go away. Little does she know, once it's on the Internet, it's a matter of Public Record which cannot be expunged.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

133. How many other Ds on Palin's hitlist might face the same danger Giffords faced? Only ONE:

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x149023 .

[Maineman]

134. We need to shout down and turn off the stupid, gun-speak

hate monger idiots like Sarah Palin, Sharon Angel, and Michele Bachmann.

[avaistheone1]

139. K&R

[ElsewheresDaughter]

141. Palin might as well have said, 'Fire!'

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_palin_put_a_target_on_her_she_should_have_known_the_dangers.html



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_palin_put_a_target_on_her_she_should_have_known_the_dangers.html#ixzz1AYj1AyXy

[ChairmanAgnostic]

142. Take Aim . . . Salvo . . . Fight . . . Join me in the fight. . .

[divvy]

144. REPUBLICAN BASTARDS !

I guess that I don't feel quite satisfied. Please allow me to chime in again:

REPUBLICAN BASTARDS !

[mackerel]

145. Thanks for this link!

I'm having a debate about this with a group from the Irish Diaspora around the world. Many of the NI Unionist support Sarah Palin.

[ToddWorthington]

148. Examples Needed of Sarah Palin Inciting Violence / Hate

I'm locked in a debate and sadly don't have the time to do my own research. While I don't believe that the violent tragedy in Arizona was just one person's fault, I do believe that Sarah Palin is one of many contributors to a political climate riddled with violent language and hate speech. Can anyone provide me with some specific quotes from Palin that demonstrate this, with sources if possible?

It'd be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[ToddWorthington]

149. Anybody?

Can anybody help me with the above?