On the speculation of who could do this

[nadinbrzezinski]

folks Mexican Cartels are NOT behind this... they are actually better shots...

So the speculation that this is a damn furiegner is just insane.

The other... by fox and CNN, this was done by a lefty since she was not lefty enough is just insane.

I will give the press this... it will be a lone gunman (they always are) but a lone gunman who was egged by crazee talk of media and politicians.

We know it was a white person, between 18 and 25...

And the only SURE THING we can tell is that this is ratcheting the violence. But we need more info to know the real motive, even if the real motive is quite obvious from where we sit. We will see interesting spinnin though and the only thing I will say is... this is more internal terror and ratcheting up of the violence. Realize we have had stones thrown into critter's offices. Grijalva, clyburn, I could go on. This is the ratcheting up.

Oh and Luke is doing a good job on this.

[rfranklin]

1. Mexican cartels would have had twenty shooters...

they don't like survivors.

[datasuspect]

2. with ak-47s and bombs

[htuttle]

3. There were reports that police were looking for an accomplice at the moment

[eleny]

4. Did you hear the audio of Rep. Grijalva earlier?

He was laying it on the line about the tenor of discourse or like you say, "crazee talk".

[Cleita]

5. As I said in my own thread, I

believe it is the work of White Supremacists, many of who have also been behind the Tea Party movement although not all Tea Partyers are White Supremacists. There are compounds of these Aryan freaks in Arizona. They believe they are Christians and blame the Jews for crucifying Jesus. The gun rhetoric that the extreme right has been using against Democrats are code words aimed at exactly this demography. Now they acted. Also, Giffords was Jewish. The neo-Nazis have a white-hot hate for Jews so it was a twofer for them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. She is still alive

from media reports

The judge shot and killed, he was appointed by Bush senior, but also ruled that foreigners have the same rights as Americans.

The plot thickens as they say... and the pattern of a McVeigh like event is building... bet everything the militias and hate groups will get a pass AGAIN.

[GSLevel9]

6. State Senator Lopez also reports shooter is an Afghan War Vet. nt

[PurityOfEssence]

8. One's prejudice is best shown in the absence of information

There's a better maxim for this--please point me in the direction of it if you know--but it's quite true.

Thank you for an attempt to be better than our baser instincts.