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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:44 PM Original message |
My guess is that Loughner is psychotic |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. How then, do you think the average FR poster would sound with only their juicy parts quoted? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. huh? |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Any FR poster, after commiting the same acts, and viewing their posting, etc, would not appear to yo |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. I was temporarily and briefly psychotic ("ICU pyschosis") and I |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Nothing like this. FR posters are mean and vicious. This person is schizophrenic/delusional. |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. He seems perfectly normal to me. |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Aggression, seems to be the new normal. And if they took your country |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. No. Poor people are usually the ones who enlist so that they can go to college. |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Certainly all true, but I think you mihgt find most of them would be to you psychotic. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. because they're clueless about the actual condition. |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. My business partner developed shizophrenia. They denied him, ignored any treatment |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Reminds me of Arthur Bremer - Wallace's shooter. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Of course he was influenced to act in a tragic manner, which is why the |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. No but an effort can be made. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Hate speech and hate imagery is not sane. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. I agree. He's likely schizophrenic, but there are aggravating factors: military involvement, |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. I thought the same thing when I saw his YouTube greeting. nt |
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lifesbeautifulmagic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
5. yes, obviously he was delusion |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think we'll know a lot more in the coming days |
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mavigozler (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. isn't that really the automatic or obvious characterization of anyone committing political violence? |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. Was he gay, too? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. No. I'm basing my guess on his writings and my familiarity with the writings of those who are in |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. I've seen that type of writing from artists. |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
9. There is great utility in calling it all one lone insane freak, not afiliated. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. that may well be true, but as someone who spent |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Absolutely agreed. Anyone who has experience dealing with schizophrenics/affectives |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. oh, I'm not denying that he may have been influenced by right wing rhetoric- |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. The line between ideology and psychosis grows thinner and thinner. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I can make it because I spent a decade working with people who |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Okay. I'm too tired and depressed to argue. NT |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
37. Delusional people are the easiest to induce to kill people. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. we'll need scientific evidence and a press conference including the shooter, his treatment team, and |
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Crystal Clarity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. Wondering if this is him... A pic from The Arizona Daily Star |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. Probably. Guess we'll have to wait and see though. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
17. Very precise targets for a psychotic. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. what make you think that someone in a psychotic state can't be precise? |
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Thunderstruck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
24. From one of his videos on YT; |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Circular nonsensical thinking. Classic of its kind. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
30. News flash. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. where did you get that idea? |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. No. YOU name one assassin in history that was not psychotic. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. huh? there's no evidence that I'm aware of in psychiatric literature |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Psychosis. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. evidence please. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. You provide evidence to support your claim. The historical record |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Psychotics are not by definition "influenced by hateful people." Someone can be in a psychosis and |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. "The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar." |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
39. Schizophrenia usually starts in ones late teens or early 20s. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. yep. and it could be psychosis |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. All assassins in history have been mentally deficient. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. nonsense. some assassins do so for monetary gain. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Name a historical assassin that killed for money. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
44. And this is what happens when folks don't have health care ... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. yes. |
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B2G (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. How do you know he doesn't have healthcare? n/t |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Not "health insurance." Health care. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I don't see any evidence supporting the idea that he is a vet. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. well, he didn't have a job |
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B2G (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. He lived with his parents |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
56. I agree - he's seriously mentally ill. |
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Call Me Wesley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
59. Great thread! |
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