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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:11 PM Original message |
Giffords' injury: "The bullet travelled the entire length of the brain on the left side..." |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Giffords not Jeffords |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. All day yesterday, I made this same mistake... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oops.. It's Giffords |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I probably posted about Jeffords 10 years ago... |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. But, it didn't cross the hemispheres |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. But the left hemisphere controls speech, reasoning, etc... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. People have lived after the whole hemisphere has been removed. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. What happens to cognitive ability when the entire left brain is gone? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. There's actually a surgical procedure to do that |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Young children can do great after the whole hemisphere has |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. But she is following simple commands |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. It's normal to be on a ventilator in her case--anyone who's not conscious |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. not necessariy. anybody know if she is left or right handed? or ambidextrous? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. I was just repeating what the doc said |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. More important... didn't hit the brain stem |
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Ptah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. But what about Giffords? |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. WTF, indeed! |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. It actually is good because it was on one side. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. That's what I keep hearing. |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Better than laterally or down the center... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. Left brain = language |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. The left brain/right brain division is far less simple than that |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. But it still may be months or years before she'll be recovered. |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. ...hoping for the best |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. If she was talking, it likely missed the speech center |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Doc said she hasn't spoken |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Does that suggest that part of the brain is likely intact? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. The part that understands is apparently intact |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Yeah, I just wasn't sure if those were both processed in the same place or not. (nt) |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Thanks, I slept too late to catch any sort of news this morning. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. She wasn't talking |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. My father had a stroke that effected his speech centers....he "talks"...its just a lot different |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Aphasia. |
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oldlib (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
16. She may have been fortunate |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. my gut response was the same... |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Could also depend on the type of bullet |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. If it was a "through and through" shot, as they are saying it was not a hollow point |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Not necessarily |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
22. that is "good" relatively speaking |
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nolabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
25. This is conjecture but it's likely very good that it passed clear through. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Agree - also means they had to do less surgical intervention |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
28. I've worked with patients with TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. were they left or right handed? |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. yes it is opposite but after an injury like this |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. there is no question about that |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. I was going to say the same thing. This is a complete life changer |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. I think chances of successfully suing Palin over this are nill to none. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
32. Actually that is the least damaging angle, "as good as it gets". |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. That doesn't sound good. |
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