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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:05 AM Original message |
Role-reversal: Passenger accused of groping TSA agent |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Every day across the US government agents inappropriately |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Maybe you should read your... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. I don't have a problem with a contract |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. With the approval of.... |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. No, her crime is sexual assault. The woman consented to the procedure and security arrangements when |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. +1 nt |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. There's a difference between what is reasonable and what is |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. It is a perfectly apt analogy. Everyone is aware of the conditions |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yes, if I want to fly on a commercial airliner in the US I have to surrender |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You do realize the 4th Amendment is not so black and white, don't you? |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. I'm not talking warrants. The people at Yankee Stadium don't need a |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. "without justification or reason" - Except there is justification and reason. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. There is no justification or reason for |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 12:29 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. The courts disagree with you... |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. But what do the courts know about the law anyway? nt |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Apparently more than people who just recite... |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. There is a justification for ensuring that bombs or other weapons |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. So the US government has to feel up small children, elderly |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. "while granny is having some moron's hands shoved down her pants" |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. So because someone might figure out a way to get past it, there's no sense in having it? |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Where did I say there is no reason for security? I didn't. I said, and I |
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Veronica.Franco (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. TSA hires GED graduates ... |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. TSA doesn't even require a GED. A year of paid work experience can |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Wow, slamming people with a GED??? |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I know a young woman who dropped out of high school, |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. That's not what the poster I was responding to posted |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I understand your taking exception to what the person posted. I agree |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-19-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. Tit for tat |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. Fair's fair - is this a "tit for tat" situation? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
4. If I were a jury I would refuse to find her guilty. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. yup. but then, they wouldnt have me on the jury, either, lol. agree. nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. TSA might want to think about this, they are more or less admitting what they do is sexual abuse. nt |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. TSA NEVER lets the facts get in the way |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. A police officer is allowed to handcuff someone and arrest them. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. they cannot unless they have probable cause. oh wait.... tsa doesnt need that. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. It's an administrative search... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. forced consent. ya. i get it. nt |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It's not... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. it absolutely forced. to argue.... you dont have to fly is crap. some people HAVE to fly, for |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. You consent to comply with FAA regulations when you... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. i guess i can say the same "I don't know how to say it any plainer." |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. If you want to fly... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
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Veronica.Franco (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. Fear is a big seller ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No, I see the necessity of... |
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Veronica.Franco (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Would you? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Tell that to the people who lost their lives when... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Should customs agents not be allowed to search the baggage |
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Veronica.Franco (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. they don't ... |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. They certainly can. I just took a trip to Canada and |
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Veronica.Franco (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. oh, I know they can ... |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Right. That is because you consent to the security arrangements when you purchase |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. You can call it "security arrangements," but that's a complete joke since TSA |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
63. That's nice, but we are talking about routine feeling up of women and little girls here. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-20-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. TSA apologists have no problem with the feeling up of women, little |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. Reminds me of a million monkeys with a million typewriters... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. or on the other hand, the sheep that readily and submissively say... baaaaaah. nt |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm so lonely I don't actually fly; I just go through screening every saturday night. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
35. I so want to serve on this jury. |
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Veronica.Franco (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
41. I will support Mihamae every way I can ... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
46. Miyamae is a Japanese translator who did a book on Wikileaks |
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