Candy Crowley: Sheriff Dupnik wasn't in his right mind

[Enrique]

CNN seems to be working overtime this morning, via Howard Kurtz and Candy Crowley, to protect Sarah Palin.

Probably the most damaging statement is Sheriff Dupnik's, so Cany had to minimize it somehow. So she said, he was personally upset because he knew Giffords personally, and we all know people say things in the heat of the moment that they want to take back later.

Hey Candy, at this point, Dupnik has not taken back shit. Since when is it a reporter's job to predict that people are going to change their mind?

[Chimichurri]

1. CNN is atrocious. This just adds to the sorrow of yesterday's events.

[Tippy]

10. Well the Sheriff is in trouble then

He just repeated almost word for word what he said yesterday......

[Chimichurri]

17. yes he did. he expanded it to say AZ is the tombstone of the country

regarding gun control.

He's a hero but the media is shameful

[Faryn Balyncd]

135. CNN (and Candy Crowley) is a camouflaged "deep cover" MIRROR of Fox "News"...

....part of their job is to carry the phony label of "liberalism", which is a relic from the early Ted Turner/pre-TimeWarner days, so they can more effectively spread RW lies to the public.

They are more venal than Fox, since everybody acknowledges that Fox is a snake.

[Enthusiast]

143. You are exactly correct.

CNN allows just enough of a liberal facade to maintain the illusion. This serves two purposes. One, it lends them credence because it distinguishes them from the obviously tainted right wing rhetoric of Fox News. Two, it allows them to insert specific messages and arguments into the national dialog in their effort to manipulate the sentiments of the masses.

Candy's message was simply right wing damage control after millions heard the sheriff's words.

[awoke_in_2003]

121. yes, they are...

between games yesterday I checked in here- how bad is it that I watched an entire game on a major network and never knew anything happened? When I saw what happened, i immediately tuned to CNN (and saw that asshat Wolf Blitzer). I watched for a while, then finally found MSNBC and watched Keith's coverage (and his special commentary). To those of you who tossed Keith under the bus, I say "up yours". KO is still one of the very few real journalists we have left.

[wtmusic]

2. They're already doing damage control for Palin 2012. nt

[awoke_in_2003]

123. yes they are...

I watched Meet the Press on MSNBC today, and David Gregory was trying to say political rhetoric and war rhetoric are deeply entwined, so we can't blame poor Sister Sarah. Made me want to puke.

[bluestateguy]

3. The test of a strong leader is do they give in to the Echo Chamber's demands

Do NOT apologize, do not walk it back.

[TwilightGardener]

4. Seems like he's perfectly in his right mind. He's probably been listening

to this RW bullshit for months or years, as a law enforcement official. He knows his community, he hears shit.

[spanone]

5. hey candyass, he repeated his thoughts this am....he thought about it, i'm sure

[Junkdrawer]

6. Candy Crowley is not qualified to speak of minds....

Mindless twit.

[MrMickeysMom]

7. Seemed very lucid to me...

Candy, are you so obtunded that you couldn't take notes of how many questions were thrown at him to evaluate how he answered?

The rest of us did, you mouthpiece.... Perhaps you are in need of REM sleep yourself. Put you CPAP mask on tonight, sweet-cheeks.

[emulatorloo]

8. Candy is defending Hate Radio?

Great.

[Cleita]

9. They started last night with Wolf Blitzer and guests.

I had to turn it off. They are spinning a shield around Palin. Disgusting.

[defendandprotect]

103. Turning it off is what everyone should be doing ....

When everyone does that -- things will begin to move to the left.

Eventually ....

Because, there is no intent of merit in corporate-press -- just

polluting the air waves with violence and right wing propaganda --

to portray and create a violent and ignorant society.

And -- by the way -- every one of us tax payers is subsidizing this

trash cause these corporations do not pay anything to use our

airwaves --

Essentially we're even subsidizing "paid programs" which come on

more and more frequently and which the networks get paid to run!

Put the TV in the closet --- your life will change!

[MedicalAdmin]

151. Turning the channel is window dressing

Unless you follow up with letters to every advertiser explaining why you air buyin their shit anymore. If it's cable then call the cable company and tel them why you are dropping their crappy service and them do it.

I doesnt help to burttheir pocket book if they don't know that you are doing it and why you are doing it. If you don't connect the dots you might as well be fapping.

[defendandprotect]

156. No -- that's naive and presumes that there hasn't been 20 years and more of

attempts to end this right wing corporate press --

However, my advice is -- do whatever you feel necessary -- and then pull the plug --

put the TV in the closet.

Right wing propaganda needs an audience --

turn your back on that propaganda --

and those delivering it --


:)

[awoke_in_2003]

124. I started watching WB...

and got disgusted. KO had it right yesterday. Time to give him his proper seat (not under the bus)

[malaise]

11. Candy hasn't been in her right mind since birth

Fugg her

[Dawson Leery]

12. Candy and Wolfie are CNN's right wing men.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

34. No kidding! I can't stand either one of them.

and Chris Matthews(MSNBC) is a good runner up for the third spot in my opinion.

[Rex]

13. I hope this horrible murder causes a lot of people to get fired

over political CYA. I expect Candy to do such things, I hope CNN fires her.

[backscatter712]

14. She needs to spend more time chewing her cud than talking... n/t

[Cid_B]

15. Dupink was unprofessional...

Do your job Sheriff and act the part...

[prolesunited]

23. Maybe he thinks part of his job is

PREVENTION.

He's on the ground and a better judge of what the climate is and what is necessary.

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[Pathwalker]

39. Part if his job would have been investigating threats against her.

You know that, I'm sure. No doubt he found out that more than a few of those threats were inspired by hate radio/tv.

[Cid_B]

44. Jurisdictional issues aside...

... was there something out there from the shooter that targeted Giffords that has come out?

If so please link.

[defendandprotect]

158. Where was the FBI in all this to protect candidates ... ? They're deaf to these threats?

[Angry Dragon]

51. It is his job to determine the cause of crimes

He has found that hate radio helped cause this crime

[Cid_B]

53. Sweet lord...

At last.. proof.. evidence...

Oops, I guess your link must be missing. Can you reference again what the Sheriff has found evidence of that shows he was influence by talk radio? Internet logs? Phone records? Transcripts of some sort?

[Angry Dragon]

60. You have no problen stating he does not have these

[Cid_B]

63. Ummmm..... yes?

I'm just silly like that I suppose. I only assume something exists AFTER I see evidence that it does.

If you want to assume that there is a "Death to Left" manifesto in someone's pocket that's great but it doesn't make it so.

[Kali]

57. how do you know he didn't know dick about the guy

he knows more than almost anybody concerned

He and the FBI ARE in charge of the investigation.

Oh, and I lived in Pima county for several years, AZ most of my life - he is a DAMN good sheriff.

[Cid_B]

59. Then I'm glad...

he isn't the only one in charge. He obviously can't control himself when under pressure.

Even if the shooter gave him a signed confession stating exactly why he did it it should have been presented professionally.

Secondly, it still isn't his job to lecture America on their rhetoric.

He comes across as biased and as having preconceived notions which are fatal flaws to a PROFESSIONAL investigation. His statements set the the tone for future work and his bias could close off relevant ideas and leads.

I stand by my statement. If he can't control himself on the public stage then he needs to send someone out who can.

[WinkyDink]

68. What ARE you babbling about? He was QUITE controlled.

[Rex]

122. What a bunch of bullshit.

[Enthusiast]

145. Maybe you can get a job on CNN.

You know, directing our thoughts as Candy and Wolf do.

[Ticonderoga]

161. You must have noticed

he was dressed in civilian clothes when he gave that interview. He has a right to free speech.

[Amaril]

58. And you know that how?

You have absolutely NO idea what Loughner may have said to law enforcement when he was taken into custody. Ever occur to you that he may have said something that prompted the sheriff to say what he did?

[Cid_B]

72. As stated before...

1) Based on evidence he has the choice to release that information (i.e. the signed manifesto and confession) if the Sheriff so decides. The way it was presented it is comes across as pure speculation.

2) Even if he has that "smoking gun" of evidence it is not the Sheriff's job to talk to America about it's rhetoric.

He just adds fuel to the fire and it doesn't help anything but get ya'lls knickers in a twist....

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[cherokeeprogressive]

134. "judging by your join date... we know why you are here,,," I guess I'm missing something...

Can you tell me what the poster's join date tells you? I'm at a loss.

[awoke_in_2003]

137. that they came here...

during the primaries, with the only purpose of disrupting this board. There are a lot of right wingers here that love to say certain things to put various factions of the left against each other, instead of concentrating on the real enemy- the right. A lot of them are what we would call "cheerleaders".

[cherokeeprogressive]

138. It doesn't say that to me. In fact

I tend to agree with the poster that the Sheriff acted unprofessionally. It's not his job to speculate in public while acting in his role of Sheriff no matter what people on a message board think.

I think it's quite possible a defense attorney could make the case that he tainted the jury pool with his remarks. If so, would you still try to make the argument that the Sheriff was simply "telling it like it is"?

[Enthusiast]

146. LOL!

At your argument.

[Ticonderoga]

162. Cid

Wouldn't you feel more at home over there at Stormfront.com?

[Cid_B]

73. Self Delete

Double Post

[tabasco]

78. Ahhhhh, we have an expert in leadership.

Isn't that special.

[Cid_B]

96. Hi!

:hi:

[muffin1]

98. I'm shocked that you hold that opinion.

:eyes:

Anyone in his right mind knows that hate speech and the incitement of VIOLENCE needs to be tamped down. Do we know that it led directly to this crime? No. Did he say it led directly to this crime? No.

How can you be alive and not be aware of the hate, racism and fear that is perpetuated in Arizona, and indeed, the nation? The good Sheriff is saying what needs to be said. Too bad more people are not.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

120. I was wondering which member of the usual bunch of jerks hadn't manifested yet. -nt

[Enthusiast]

147. I'm with you, muffin. nt

[rasputin1952]

118. It is his job to determine a motivation for a crime...

the basics of police work require that a motive be established to bring the case against the accused.

His speculation that some aspects of talk radio and other sources may have led to the crime were not out of liner, in fact, they may well have been in perfect alignment; that is for a jury to decide if the DA or other prosecutor decides to take that course of action in the case.

For the record, history is replete with instances such as this, from those that have played "telephone" as kids, to the audaciousness of the propaganda machinations of every nation, (to include this one).

What the Sheriff was doing was openly bringing forth a possible motive for the crime that was perpetrated. He was not out of line, he was within his rights, as is everyone in this nation to voice their opinion.

[Cleita]

35. He did his job as Sheriff to point out why this could have

occurred, but more importantly he did his job as a patriotic American citizen to point out that the First amendment rights are being abused and used irresponsibly by people who are in power and can influence American thought.

[Cid_B]

41. Uh huh...

In your book that might make him a good person but in reality it makes him a crap unprofessional LEO.

As stated above, by assigning where he guesses the blame "probably" is or could have come from he gets everyone in a tizzy because they take it as gospel. It makes people stop looking for what the true cause is because it's so "obvious" that must be it. Case in point DU for the last 24 hours.

Sheriff needs to get his ass out there and speak professionally, calmly and relate ONLY facts that are ready for public distribution.

[Cleita]

47. That helps the gestapo right wing control the

message doesn't it? That's what the right wing does. Their side can spew any crap they want to but when some one points out that they are endangering lives with their crap, they are unprofessional and shouldn't say anything that makes them look bad. Naw, you are very wrong.

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[Cleita]

65. Your nature as an investigator.

That explains a lot. Unfortunately, you need to put yourself in the place of the person vulnerable to attack and assassination and then explain what your nature as an investigator tells you.

The Sheriff was very right to make that accusation. Those radio and televisions hosts who are preparing their hate filled shows for the following week will have to ratchet back the rhetoric now that he has them in his crosshairs, to use a metaphor from the right. Back atcha Rush and Beck. Remember the Sheriff also has First amendment rights to speak his mind.

[Enthusiast]

149. Huge plus one! nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

136. It also taints jury pools. n/t

[Enthusiast]

148. Excellent words, Cleita!

This is a point that often goes unsaid. It is the very 1930s Germany-like condition in the media. After all the millions of hours of hate radio and RW TV the sheriff makes a valid observation so CNN and stealth right wingers on DU feel the need to "refudiate" it. Smells like damage control to me.

[disillusioned73]

154. You "unproffessional" arguement is..

highlarious :rofl:, and entertaining - thank you

[devilgrrl]

48. exactly. He pointed out one of the symptoms that is effecting society negatively. He did his job.

And seems very competent too boot.

[Cid_B]

54. Yes yes...

Everyone here would scream bloody murder if he came out and dismissed talk radio and Palin's .jpgs as the cause for the crime based on his WAG but since it fits in with the local wet dream then he is all of a sudden Starsky and Hutch wrapped up into one.

[devilgrrl]

62. How would you have reacted if this were a DUI case and the sheriff lament alcohol abuse?

eom

[Cid_B]

67. Well that implies...

... that upon INVESTIGATION he found EVIDENCE such as an elevated BAC from a blood test or JD bottles strewn throughout the car or conducting an interview with the driver.

The closest analogy here would be a traffic accident that happened due to indeterminate cause but the Sheriff makes a statement talking about the evils of DUI thus cementing the idea of alcohol abuse in the mind of the public and most likely his investigators.

Simply put, you don't know this is a "DUI."

Folks here just seem to hope it is...

[Celebration]

76. It really doesn't matter, does it?

You either think that the crosshairs map by Palin was appropriate, or you think that it is possible that it, along with other rhetoric by the right wing, had the potential to incite violence.

BEFORE this happened, even the ladies on The View predicted something like this could happen, as did many others. But the irresponsible rhetoric continued, and the crosshairs stayed up.

Do we absolutely know that this caused the incident? No!!

Do we know that it had the potential to cause something like this? YES!!

Do you agree or disagree?

[Cid_B]

83. Sure it could...

but so what?

He COULD be incited by the bumper sticker on your car? or the fact you cut him off? or the fact they were out of juicy fruit at the impulse buy section?

The list of things that COULD incite someone to do something nefarious is both long and tedious.

What should we do? Lock ourselves away in rubber rooms for fear that something we do or say MIGHT somehow induce a disturbed person to do something wicked? We should all hug and wear fluffy rainbows and agree on everything so that no one would ever have a reason to do something terrible? It's unrealistic.

People use tragedies like this to shut down speech and symbols they don't like.

Go live in fear if you want. Go incite fear if you want.

I don't live my life like that and don't expect others to either.

[Hannah Bell]

86. The same unprofessionalism you chide the sheriff for applies equally to the politicians

& media figures who pepper their public statements with thinly-veiled incitement to violence against their political enemies. sometimes not-so-thinly-veiled.

The pima county sheriff is an elected position. he's a politician.

you appear to be holding him to a higher standard or focusing on his conduct while ignoring conduct worse by several magnitudes -- in the same state.

[Cid_B]

89. Possible...

While I understand Sheriff is an elected position I still view them as law enforcement first and that may be asking too much for some and is also my own personal bias.

In any case, I think that he does disservice to himself and the investigation as an LE professional. Those statements could set the tone for the future investigation depending on his role in it. I would hate for a valid theory or lead to be set aside because it doesn't fit the preconceived mold.

Secondly, folks don't look to Jan Brewer or the Mayor of Tuscon for the "official" explanation. He misused his role and it could have been done in a dispassionate controlled and professional way. How many people aren't tuned into the news like I am and I guess you are? How many folks saw that 10 second clip and now just assume that must be it?

[Celebration]

93. Good grief

He didn't even name anyone in his statement. It was totally bland as far as I am concerned, and not even political. It basically just made a statement against hate speech. You make it sound as if he uttered expletives against Palin. I thought he was remarkably restrained.

[Celebration]

87. it is about being responsible

Not living in fear.

A website by a former vice presidential candidate is magnitudes larger of a problem than a bumper sticker.

What she did is legal but completely and 100% irresponsible, and had a tremendous potential for violence. A bumper sticker, while unfortunate, has no such weight behind it.

And you are showing your true colors for for attempting to make a bumper sticker equivalent to what Palin did. Yes I hold a former vice presidential candidate to a higher standard than the average redneck. Silly me.

[Cid_B]

91. See? I was hoping for conversation...

but I see you just want to insult.

I don't think you can see past your own biases and are straining at the seams to cram that square peg into the octagon hole....

Stay classy...

[Celebration]

94. Classy?

What conversation? Your comparison of this to a bumper sticker is absolutely ridiculous.

[Cid_B]

95. It's ok to be deliberately obtuse if you like...

... but don't expect others to continue to play with you.

[Celebration]

97. Redneck Joe

Can put on any bumper sticker that he wants.

Former vice presidential candidate Palin can put up almost any website she wants.

Which has the greater weight?????? Which has the greater potential to influence???? Who has the greater duty to be responsible??? Who does the public hold accountable for the rhetoric???

You make ZERO sense when you try to equate the two.

[Cid_B]

101. I refer you to post #97

Are you stating as fact that the images posted by someone who ran for political office are more inflammatory than the images of those who have not? Most especially to the mentally disturbed?

I'll save you the trouble. You can't.

This whole silly argument is about "could." Then there are different magnitudes of "could." But who gets to decide... Oh yeah and don't forget that you are concerned about someone who is f'ing crazy?

[Celebration]

104. I am suggesting that

A website visited by millions of people, endorsed by a former vice presidential candidate, has a potential to cause harm magnitudes more than a random bumper sticker.

Can I prove that this influenced him? Again, NO! But so what? It was a completely irresponsible thing for her to do. Do you agree or disagree?

[Cid_B]

105. It has potential...

... just like everything else.

I already stated that I don't expect others to live their lives wondering how someone MIGHT interpret what they say and do so that answers your question...

You say yourself that you don't know what influenced this shooter. So why weren't you in such a twist 48 hours ago? I'll tell you why... because you see this as an opportunity to remove speech you deem to be unacceptable.

[Celebration]

107. Damn right

I wanted it removed. I also wanted it removed months ago and 48 hours ago. Unacceptable? That's mild. Inflammatory, irresponsible, and on from there. So you would just as soon have Palin leave the crosshairs up? She removed it, you know. Why????? If it was acceptable, then she should have left it up. I guess she is a hypocrite, not willing to defend it. The problem is...........there was ALWAYS a huge problem with it--now, months ago, 48 hours ago--take your pick.

"Potential, just like everything else" NO!! A former vice presidential candidate and her website is not "just like everything else", and certainly not like a redneck with a bumper sticker.

[Cid_B]

109. In case you hadn't noticed...

The world is inflammatory, irresponsible and so on from there...

Kittens and hugs and rainbow unicorns who all agree are a great fantasy but the world is impassioned and and full of fiery pissed off people who all have their own ideas. There is no realistic solution that would not curtail free speech and free thought.

[Celebration]

110. ah, but, you know

truly responsible people are NOT inflammatory. She perceives herself as presidential material........... I do expect more from leaders and people in authority.

The realistic solution is to expect more of leaders and to denounce them in no uncertain terms, to shun them and make them go away with their tail between their legs. It is really easy--they just need to do what is right, you know? Like the moral thing to do??? Is that so foreign to you?

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[Celebration]

114. sheesh

There are people that incite violence with inflammatory symbols using the crosshairs of a gun, that talk about "reload" and you don't see the moral problem with that??? Did I say that she was plotting world destruction? Noooooooo. Where did that come from? A sick mind?????

Do you not expect more than that from a potential presidential candidate? How can you defend her? Who cares if she thinks she is right in what she does? She is a complete loon. I am not sure why a single Democrat should be defending her, either before or after this horrible incident. And, yes, I do feel that right wing rhetoric by authority figures such as talk show hosts and presidential candidates has led to instances of violence. And I will never stop denouncing anyone who I feel incites violence. The fact that she sees herself as presidential material is pretty frightening.

[awoke_in_2003]

132. you are as obtuse...

as a 179 degree angle

[awoke_in_2003]

131. "was hoping for conversation"

no, you weren't. You came here during the primaries, during Rush's "Operation Chaos". No, you were not fucking hoping for conversation- you came here to disrupt, and you have done so poorly.

[awoke_in_2003]

130. this post will be removed....

but it has to be said- you are a douche bag of the highest caliber.

[Cid_B]

142. Here's hoping you have a lovely day...

:hi:

[Enthusiast]

150. And you are on the DU

arguing on behalf of the right wing position, why? In the interest of objectivity? Give me a break!

[tabasco]

79. Yes, if he were telling lies, we would object.

He is telling the truth. That is a public official's job.

Honesty and candor are leadership traits.

[Cid_B]

84. Whether you know it or not...

... whether you believe it or not it is just opinion.

You would scream bloody murder if he stated something just as unprofessionally on the opposite side of the spectrum. The difference is that you would be agreeing with me about that sad sack Sheriff and how he should stick to his duties and leave his own right wing ideology out of it.

[Ikonoklast]

163. So, you say being against gun violence and hate speech

is 'left-wing ideology', using your own example.

Calling for the death of political enemies.

Sad.

[tabasco]

165. No, I support telling the truth.

The sheriff told the truth that the right wing has created a climate of violent threats and intimidation.

Do you deny that? Or do you believe propaganda because it makes you feel good?

[maritimer]

81. I believe he was being professional and

spot on with his comments on the state of things today. Does he not have the right to make such a comment? The so-called "press" whines and opines as the day is long.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

119. Not every sheriff in Arizona is like Joe Arpaio.

Disappointed?

[awoke_in_2003]

125. no, he wasn't unprofessional...

he nailed it perfectly.

[Old and In the Way]

16. because candy knows better than the Sheriff of Pima Cty as to what

is going on in Arizona? I watched the CNN talking heads avoid the whole implications of what Dupnik said yeaterday. It looks like Crowley and Kurz are on active damage control to Palin and the Corporate Media Party.

[TwilightGardener]

22. They kept Palin alive after 2008, they promoted her endlessly, they invented

and promoted the Tea Party in order to rebrand the Republican party as a new sensation that's sweeping the nation. They're not about to let that all fall apart now...all that work and effort and image-building--2012 is not here yet!

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[still_one]

19. I cannot understand why anyone at DU continues to watch the MSM, unless it is for entertainment only

Yesterday they demonstrated once again they are not in the business of news. They incorrectly reported what had happened. This isn't the first time. There was a mine accident a few years back, and they incorrectly reported that all the miners were alive, when a few hours later it was reported to be incorrect.

Perhaps the biggest indictment against the WHOLE news industry in this country was the WMD myth which led us into Iraq, and the passage of the Patriot Act

The only news source on TV I watch is Bloomberg. Before a story goes out they insure it is accurate. That doesn't mean they don't make mistakes, but they eliminate most of them. In addition, they always try to present both views of an issue.

[Suji to Seoul]

20. Funny story. . .in 2007, my father met Gabby for the first time

It was at a town hall over health insurance in Vail, Arizona.

Afterwords, my father pulled Gabby aside and showed her something interesting. He showed her how difficult it was for a person to buy health insurance for themselves, but how easy it was for that same person to buy health insurance for their dog.

Gabby looks shocked, amazed and disgusted. They spent almost thirty minutes speaking. At the end, Gabby asked my father for the paperwork so she could show people in Congress. She called him earlier this year and told him that her vote for Health Care reform was because of my father's talk with her.

They have worked on tax policy and financial policy together. My mother had a problem getting her passport from the State Department due to her adoption. Gabby took care of it in two days. My father's passport was held up by the DHS when we mailed it back to him from Hong Kong. . .Gabby got it released in less than 24 hours.

That being said. . Candy Crowley needs to STFU. I know Gabby very well and my father's on first name basis with her. We don't agree with her and call her a DINO, but she is a good person.

Sarah Palin put a target on her head and this assclown from my brother's HS (that would pick fights with my brother because we're Jewish and he hated Jews and most non-Jareds in the world) took Gigot up on her rhetoric. She has blood on her hands, but I guess truth hurts spin schmucks like Kurtz and Crowley.

Remember when CNN was actually news?

[Ticonderoga]

164. Remember when CNN was actually news?

Quite frankly...No.

[MelissaB]

21. I saw this and changed the channel.

I got up this morning and turned on the news to see how the spin was going and this is the first thing I saw. :(

[Carolina]

24. CNN totally sucks

and lard ass Candy is part of the reason why. Met her here at an SC political function years ago (2002) and she was so smug and condescending then. She has only gotten worse and more full of herself since.. like many in the Washington press corps, she thinks that we, the people (the little people) especially in a place like SC are all stupid.

[udbcrzy2]

25. Can't believe CNN even hired Crowley

The Palin people will defend her no matter what.

[Tatiana]

26. No wonder why CNN's ratings are going down the toilet.

If this is the type of commentary their anchors and reporters provide, I'm glad I don't watch the channel any longer.

[defendandprotect]

159. Can't imagine what kids born since the 1970's envision this world to be ... ???

Yet, evidently the reality of our wars are too violent for the public to see --

to have the truth before them!!

But every other kind of man made violence, torture, sexual abuse appears on the

Orwellian screen!!

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[mix]

28. Notice the omnipresent focus on the mental state of everyone who does not buy into their narrative.

n/t

[TwilightGardener]

32. Yes--sheriff gave his honest analysis of what happened, and it's unacceptable

to the media, who wants a viable TeaPublican party in 2012. Therefore he is clearly off his rocker.

[still_one]

37. Because the media know THEY bear a responsibility for what happened. In some respects CNN is worse

than fox. fox makes no pretense what they are doing, cnn trys to con you into believing they are objective

I haven't watched either for years. I consider myself fairly well-informed, and my blood pressure is much lower

[TwilightGardener]

43. I've mostly stopped watching, too. Once you learn how much of what comes

out of their mouths is bullshit, it becomes unbearably frustrating to watch.

[still_one]

45. You will get more valid information here at DU then watching those clowns /nt

[Cirque du So-What]

29. I've contacted CNN via e-mail

not that I expect so much as a reply - much less a change in behavior. I merely wanted them to know that their cravenness is not going unnoticed and that they are hastening their descent into irrelevance.

[moondust]

31. Palin is largely a corporate media creation.

As are the teabaggers. That makes CNN, Faux, etc. complicit to some degree so they'll try to cover their asses.

Corporate media may have promoted her and the anti-government teabaggers endlessly in the interest of their own greed and corporate hegemony but now the unintended consequences show up to haunt them.

Did Dan Quayle or any other failed VP candidates get nearly unlimited airtime and their own TV show? With only minimal time in public office?

[Name removed]

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[Moses2SandyKoufax]

36. Oh yes the 2000 election.

Remember her crying on air when CNN had called Florida for Gore?

[Politics_Guy25]

55. Did she seriously????-n/t

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

61. Yep,

as I recall she was at Bush HQ on election night, and started tearing up after Florida, Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin had been called.

[Lint Head]

38. Candy Crowley is NEVER in her right mind.

Unless she is literally supporting the RIGHT. She is an Idiot!

[RainDog]

40. she has no right to speak for him. what an arrogant ass n/t

[Odin2005]

42. They are desperate to regain control of the narrative.

[Enthusiast]

152. That would be my observation.

Another would be they WILL gain control of the narrative. They are 'in power'.

[lpbk2713]

46. Crowley is a shameful waste of protoplasm.

CNN needs to return her to whatever sewage treatment plant they got her from.

[Vinca]

49. CNN is the new FOX.

[gort]

50. What's the difference between words and bullets, Candy?

You cant take back bullets once they are fired.

[emulatorloo]

56. I assume Sheriff Dupnik made the comments he made BECAUSE THE SEARCH WARRANTS TURNED UP SOMETHING

Candy rant defend hate radio all the wants

[Cid_B]

74. Assume all you like...

If I assume I've got $4,000 in my pocket can I go get a new lift on my jeep?

IOW, if the Sheriff turned up something then he can release that as fact based on evidence if he wants to. As is, he comes across as just spewing his own opinion...

[EFerrari]

77. Which the fact are corroborating, one after the other. n/t

[Cid_B]

80. Your point would be much stronger...

... if you added something after that n/t...

I am not opposed to the idea that the shooter was under marching order from talk radio... I just haven't seen any evidence.

If you have some or know something I don't then please share and I may change my views based on that new information.

[EFerrari]

88. Here's a piece Amy did last summer about Arizona and right wing radicals:

"Tea Party in Sonora": Ken Silverstein of Harper’s Says Arizona is Laboratory for Radical GOP Policies

A new article by Harper’s Magazine Washington editor Ken Silverstein argues that Arizona has become a laboratory not just for immigration policy, but a broad range of issues. It’s a place, he writes, where the Tea Party is arguably the ruling party, and should the Republicans retake nationwide power, "the country might start to resemble the right-wing desert that Arizona has become."

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/15/tea_party_in_sonora_ken_silverstein

I assume you've already read about the DHS memo on this individual's interest in the American Renaissance (white, racist, anti-Semitic) group.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4689670&mesg_id=4689670

The sheriff was actually more restrained in his comments than he could have been.

[Celebration]

108. Absolutely

The sheriff restrained his comments, unlike some of the irresponsible politicians on the other side.

[xchrom]

64. THIS JUST IN: Candy Crowley is an idiot. nt

[Metric System]

66. I call her Cookie Crumbs:

Matt Taibbi: "But the cool kids, the people working for the big papers and TV stations who really loved hobnobbing with all the pols on the plane — they were a pretty disgusting group in some ways. I think the one image that will stick with me is Candy Crowley (CNN) jamming fistfuls of complimentary chocolate chip cookies into her mouth in a bus in Houston (the Kerry campaign had given us all free cookies wrapped in American-flag-patterned bandanas) and talking about Kucinich. She's got this huge waterfall of crumbs coming out of her mouth and she's talking about how ugly Kucinich is. That to me summed up the whole campaign press crew, right there..."

[fascisthunter]

69. another hired RW mouth Piece in the corporate media

you Crowley are partly to blame because you are part of the right wing media agenda to propagandize.

[eleny]

70. What's next? Will they drag out Sheriff Arapaio "to be fair" to the other side?

Good for Dupnik - He doubled down today talking about the proposed new gun law in Arizona.

[get the red out]

71. I wondered out loud how long THAT would take

When I heard the candid discussion of our country's hateful rhetoric from the Sheriff on national TV I wondered how long it would take for him to be called "insane" in some manner. Before this is over the media will probably be implying he should either be checked into a psych ward or treated for Alzheimer's. Honesty is forbidden in the spin driven universe.

[JamesA1102]

75. She's been a RW hack for years. nt

[CakeGrrl]

82. Crowley is a worthless hack. Dupnik REITERATED his comments in a follow-up presser.

Poor Candy must feel protective of Republicans after Dubya gave her her very own pet nickname ("Dulce").

:puke:

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[senseandsensibility]

90. Wow, she can read minds among her many other

talents.:sarcasm:

[theophilus]

92. Stop watching CNN if you want to feel better about life, the universe, and everything.

I have been much happier since I turned of those horrible turds. That's my opinion, but it DOES work for me.

[defendandprotect]

99. Pull the plug on your TV -- !! Neither Kurtz nor Crowley have been worth anything for decades!!

Both sold out long, long ago --

turn it off!!

[proud patriot]

100. disgusting of Candy .. write or call her and tell her so

[butterfly77]

102. ...

[Barack_America]

106. CNN obviously can't handle the truth...

...that they are just as culpable in creating the political climate that led to this tragedy as Palin herself.

[dsc]

111. typical of her she couldn't even get the basic facts rights

the sheriff actually was friends with the judge who died.

[Raine]

113. Hey Candy you are supposed to just report

your aren't a psychologist and you aren't qualified to opine about someone's emotional state. :wtf:

edit: typo, removed one word

[upi402]

115. CNN and Fox are running like they stole it

Guilty and guilty.

Obama will auto-cave and tacitly allow the media to continue. He'll go on Fox but not the few on MSNBC.
He best wake up and be part of the real solution!

Repeal the Clinton Telecommunications Act.
Restore the Fairness Doctrine.
And much much more.

[Supersedeas]

116. CNN in full marginalize the political motivations mode -- John King in full court press

in defense of RW rhetoric.


Just a crazed lone gunman here -- more right along.


OK City - just a crazed loan bomber.

Anthrax - just a crazed disgruntled lab tech.

JFK....Giffords...

Assassination and political intimidation is just so random like that -- if we believe what CNN tells us.

[Turborama]

117. Just saw that. David Gergen was pandering to the violent right, too

Pathetic and actually just as dangerous as the inciters because it's giving them license to continue.

[Jamastiene]

126. I think that sheriff's mind is perfectly capable of seeing

that an assassination attempt is probably not such a good thing. That is probably something that doesn't happen every day, ya think?

Pointing out that the political climate in this country is turning too violent after dealing with 6 of his citzens being assassinated and 12 more wounded (including a United States Congresswoman) by a teabagger Republican with a gun, like they promised (they said next time they would be armed), sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

I think he knows what he is seeing, like most of the rest of us do.

It's no secret that the Republican Party has quit working for the people and just obstructs, obstructs, obstructs. Their MO is pretty consistent. For the last 50 years or so, anytime Democrats try to help people in any substantiate way, Republicans and their thug followers start assassinating us and terrorizing us with bombs.

This is a pattern. It's no secret. The man was calling it as he saw it and he was accurate.

[HEyHEY]

129. Also, often police will comment on what they think could lead to crimes

Him talking about this is no different, in my mind, than police talking about domestic disputes being cause by alcohol.

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[ClassWarrior]

133. Creepy Crowley strikes again.

Thanks a lot, Candy the Hutt.

NGU.

[Swamp Rat]

139. Jabba Da Crowley is still on TV?

[Ramulux]

140. CNN has been worse than Fox on this

Its like CNN is functioning solely to defend the right wing in a way that even puts Fox to shame.

[travelingtypist]

141. The sexism in this thread is sad.

Not calling out the examples specifically. Have sent alerts instead. Guess the mods are asleep.

[upi402]

144. it's the incitement to violence and the attempted political assasination

Candy Crowley is one of the enablers and is culpable. CNN is as bad as Fox in pushing this incitement to murder. THAT is what is sad.

[disillusioned73]

153. Candy needs to STFU...

I told my wife yesterday (after "dateline" gave the good sheriff all of 15 seconds at the very end of the show) that the media is all but ignoring the only person speaking truth to this issue.

It seemed to me that Stone Phillips(what a name) was a bit surprised that he not only reaffirmed his previous remarks but sounded ready to stand firm.... I really hope MSNBC has this guy on every primetime show.

[cherish44]

155. The fact the he made such a "provocative" statement just shows how fed up he is

As a sheriff, guys knows the good, bad and ugly of people, he's lived with it and dealt with it...STFU Candy Crowley

[GoCubsGo]

157. She should know.

"Not in one's right mind" is what she sees every time she looks in the mirror.

[Hissyspit]

160. Disgusting and unprofessional of her.

But no surprise.