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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:39 PM Original message |
So in AZ a person with mental illness can own a firearm? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. If undiagnosed, I guess so. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. A person who has been adjudicated as mentally incompentent can't own a firearm in any state |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. Shit, anyone here in AZ |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Completely false statement. AZ is part of United States and thus federal law applies. |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Uh, okay |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
4. At what point was his medical care good enough to diagnose him? |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. +1 |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. +1000. As bad as our physical health system is in this country, the mental health system is 10x |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Well the governor of Arizona sought to eliminate the limited guarantee of mental health benefits |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 07:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
45. I have yet to see any links to any sources that have documents |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. You can not always tell what diseases someone has just by looking at them. nt |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. The Armed Forces rejected him for some reason |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. May been because of drug use... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. Ever see a tea party rally? That should answer your question. nt |
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JustFiveMoreMinutes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
7. Can even be GOVERNOR!!!!!!!!!! |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. Here they come |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. How many will admit the suffer from Mental Ilness? |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. Makes you wonder about Sharron Angle... |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. The Federal Law on this issue has gotten more inclusive since the VA TEch shooting |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. aikoaiko, has federal law gotten more inclusive or has a federal form added interpretation? n/t |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. as I understand it, the NICS Imrpovement Amendments Act of 2007 clarified the definitions & reports |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Thanks, I reread 18 USC 922 and did not recognize those changes. n/t |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. Does Arizona require a background check to own a gun? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Yes from a licensed dealer |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Yes from licensed dealers. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Did you go thru a background check at WallMart when you bought your gun? n/t |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. No, I sent my BiPolar daughter |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Federal law requires a background check (which includes dangerous mentally ill persons) for any sale |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Dealer? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. In most states in this country - not just Arizona |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Actually as a clarification it applies to ALL states and territories in the US. n/t |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. I wonder if Arizona realizes the Wild West ended in 1920. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. AZ is no different than any state in this respect. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
17. Please read and understand 18 USC 922 particularly passages stating "has not been adjudicated as a |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. 'Adjudicated' meaning it must be done by an official body, not just a psychiatrist, then |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. That's my understanding. n/t |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. What my BiPolar daughter has been told in the state of NY |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I cited fed law only, don't know about NY. Perhaps someone else will clarify. n/t |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
22. If a person hasn't been legally adjudicated dangerous or incompetent, |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I think that the problem is that only a very small percentage |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Well that would be foolish. Your chance of being victim of violent crime is far higher than |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 07:10 AM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Thank you. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. Evidently so. n/t |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. Someone undiagnosed? Of course they can and in any state. No state prohibits undiagnosed persons. |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
38. or if no evidence existed that he WAS mentally ill at the time of the purchase. nt |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
46. If a person has no violent felony in their background, and have never been diagnosed |
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