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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:50 AM
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So are Democrats going to act like this when a GOP president needs the debt ceiling raised?
Will Democrats make demands such as taxing the rich more in return for raising the ceiling? That's the question.
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:51 AM
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1. No. The difference this time is that a shock doctrine event is upon us.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:46 PM
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25. and a bipartisan one, at that.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:51 AM
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2. This Is The Problem, Sir: An Adversarial System Depends On Both Sides Fighting
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:51 AM
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3. Of course not. They'll bend over and ask what type of lube the Repubs would like.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:09 PM
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11. Republicans don't need lube
They just jam it in.

Boom goes the dynamite.


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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:51 AM
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4. No.... for the most part, Democrats are grown ups that care about the country
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:44 PM
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23. Our party (including Obama) voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2007.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:20 PM
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26. Enough Democrats voted for it to allow it to pass....

If they needed the votes, they would've gotten them.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:52 AM
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5. No, we won't 'act like this' because we're rational and not spiteful.
Unfortunately this often puts us in quandaries such as you suggest.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:53 AM
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6. Wouldn't work because a Republican prez would never adopt the Dem narrative...
And he or she would use every tool in the toolbox.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:53 AM
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7. Nope they will bend over just like they did for Reagan and chimpy
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:03 PM
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8. Nope........
Not as long as any of our current pathetic leaders are in charge.

Of course the Republican president won't need to, because a "Democratic" president will have done the lion's share of the work for him.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:04 PM
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9. at the risk of repeating myself, again
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:05 PM
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10. Theres probably not going to be a debt ceiling after August 2nd
because its going to be declared unconstitutional. Theres not going to be a deal, because the GOP will never let it happen.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:16 PM
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12. No, there were at least two instances where raising the debt ceiling was tied to more war funds...
while bush was president, never heard anything from the Dems.

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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:28 PM
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13. It would never have gotten this far.
At the first sign of resistance, the Republican president would invoke the 14th amendment, raise it anyway and sneer at the Democrats "whaddya gonna do?" Then tell the American people such action was needed for the nation's security.

The Democrats would then have hearings or some other expensive timesink and might even dispatch an investigator/adjudicator ala Fitzgerald/Plame/Libby matter but it won't happen until 2 years later and 3 more debt ceiling lifts and no one will care.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:30 PM
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14. Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling when he was a Senator
so I would say this games continues...
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:30 PM
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15. Only if more cuts to the poor are needed. Then, I guess so. n/t
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:31 PM
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16. No, they will roll over like they always do. n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:32 PM
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17. Good cop bad cop does not work that way. You never reverse the roles.
The good cop stays the good cop, and the bad cop stays the bad cop.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:33 PM
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18. Without Dems there would be no GOP - it takes two to tangle
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:50 PM
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19. Of course not. They'd be labeled insanely irresponsible anti-American idiots.
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 12:58 PM by DirkGently
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:36 PM
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20. kick nt
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:37 PM
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21. Democrats will only win again if they're allowed.
And then they'll do what they're told. Kind of like this time.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:39 PM
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22. Um, no.
Not a chance. No way. No how. When a GOPer is back in the WH, we'll return to "deficits don't matter" mode.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:44 PM
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24. Look back to the actions of the Democratic congress when
Bush was in office.
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