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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:18 PM Original message |
Something you should know: |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Stupid uninformed peope do not want to know. But your point is well taken. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. Why do you call Obama names? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. We can only hope that he is stupid and uninformed. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. We know it and they know it yet they persist. Well, we who know |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. They spent the surplus. They borrowed money from us and don't intend to pay it back. |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. That's the way I see it too |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-11 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think the real problem is that the repukes don't want to pay |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. k&R n/t |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'd like to know where you got that figure |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Nancy Altman. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. I get my sources |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. In go of $807.7 billion, out go of $738.4 billion. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. 68 billion a year |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. In 25 years, it will continue to cover 77% for awhile if they do nothing. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. How will the trust fund be paid back? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Payroll tax change or cap change adjustments. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. So they say |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. There has been no program public or private that has been this |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Exactly |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. And also if someone views a treasury bond bought which produces interest is an asset |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
52. exactly! any househild knows this. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
59. "Baby boomer stresses will be gone" |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. I believe the trust was just intended to cover the baby boomer surge. nm |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. that projection was based on a very low economic growth |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Come on please cite the refference we need the facts and the way to prove them! |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. Source, please? n/t |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Stop saying that! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. I think he just stopped by to drop that little turd and move on. nm |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. Sorry, I posted it at the end of the day |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
53. Well, if it's the same as any other Treasury Bond |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. SS DID have a surplus last year and this year. It has more than |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Yes, not counting interest, which is what the MSM does, makes it look like it's in the red |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. And they also neglect to mention it has happened 11 times |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. Ah, yes, interest |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
60. At post 56 |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. That was a lie perpetuated by AP. If you read the Trustees report, SS is still in the black |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
61. Go to post 56 |
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SkatmanRoth (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
10. plain and simple they stole our SS surplus to give the wealthy tax breaks, and wage war. |
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CleanGreenFuture (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. No...no...no! The war was paid for with Iraq's oil. Everybody knows that. |
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reformist2 (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
31. They borrowed it for awful reasons, but the SS trust fund still has $3 trillion in assets |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
11. K&R n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
12. A useful site for information to defend social security. |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. K&R |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
21. you don't have to search very far to find threads welcoming cuts |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
23. K & R! |
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Kind of Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
24. Thank you, MMonk for your patience |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
30. And, the reason that Obama offers to cut benefits is........??? |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
33. Definitely sharing these figures. Thanks! |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
34. Also.. remember when Obama was asked about what would happen if we defaulted? |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
36. The con artists in DC are being paid to NOT know. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
38. No, it was a political zing (nt) |
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SpankMe (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
39. Can anyone explain this to me? |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
44. Unfortunately this is untrue |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
46. Tell it like it is! |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I think they may have already illegally raided it and don't want to pay it back. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R and shout it from the rooftops! |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
48. Thanks, mmonk. REC. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
49. Right wing has worked for decades to confuse the public re Social Security -- !! |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-27-11 06:06 AM Response to Reply #49 |
62. And apparently the left wing can't recognize reality |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
50. Quick -- someone should tell President Obama that -- not to mention GOP.... !!!! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
58. So when the "trust funds" are used up, do SS payments drop by 25%? |
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