Tea Party in OHIO--Has collected and submitted the required

[OHdem10]

Signatures to have on the Ballot--People cannot be
MANDATED to buy Health Insurance. NO MANDATE.

Watch State Politics.

There is Federalism effort afoot--Return many many
many decisions and legislation back to the states and
the states seem to be gearing up.

[physioex]

1. So go right ahead work against your own self interests.....

Now why aren't we smart enough to use their tactics on issues like marijuana and same sex marriage?

[Davis_X_Machina]

2. Probably a lot of progressives signed too. I suspect...

...that petition would draw signatures like flies if circulated here on DU.

[OHdem10]

3. Do Duers not want HCI??? Without Mandate system does not

work.

[Davis_X_Machina]

4. I know that, and you know that...

..but I got stuck with a lot of "Kill the Bill" paraphernalia and t-shirts and stuff from '09 that I still need to get rid of.

So I'd appreciate it if you kept that on the down-low.....

[EFerrari]

5. I don't want and will not buy health insurance.

I need health care with a reasonable delivery system, not to line the pockets of the insurance industry, no.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

9. I wish you lasting youth and health

because without insurance, a health "incident" can be ruinous.

I buy insurance, I don't see a reasonable option. At least until the reign of King Dennis Kucinich makes "single payer" the law of the land, and tosses insurance executives into the moat.

:hi:

[EFerrari]

19. And I wish you the same lest you ever need to use the insurance

you buy.

[Gman]

14. That's a petulant and childish attitude

And it goes against the common good for all. Why be that selfish?

[EFerrari]

18. The common good is not to be delivered like bound lambs

to the insurance industry, which is in the business of denying health care, not providing it.

Why be so ill informed?

[progressoid]

20. The common good?

Tell that to the for profit insurance companies.

[Motown_Johnny]

10. the problem being that it goes to for profit companies

if you were paying into non-profit/government it would be different




What is to stop some (R) president to use this example for privatizing social security?

(Forcing people to pay into for profit investment companies)


I am all for HCR but the mandate is an issue with me.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. Bullshit

What a ridiculous claim.

[pampango]

13. Maybe, but progressives in Ohio seem to have other ideas.

"ProgressOhio, a liberal activist group, said on Tuesday that its volunteers have been reviewing petitions and have discovered many errors. The group plans to challenge thousands of the signatures before an Aug. 5 deadline in a complaint to the Ohio Supreme Court. Brian Rothenberg, executive director of ProgressOhio, said it is inexplicable why supporters of the proposed amendment want to abolish a law that promotes access to affordable health care.

Tea Party activists and other critics say the law gives the government too much control over health care and takes away individuals' choice of how and when to have insurance.

The White House and Democrats say it will result in the overwhelming majority of Americans having health coverage. But Republicans say the bill's fee structure will cause employers to drop coverage, leaving employees on their own to get insurance through the new state-based marketplaces, or health care exchanges. "

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2011/07/proposed_constitutional_amendm.html

[mazzarro]

6. Hey Ohio - how about adding auto insurance to that too? -- n/t

[Enthusiast]

7. You weren't supposed to point that out.

:hi:

[divvy]

8. Don't worry .... Obama will fuck that up too.

[Motown_Johnny]

11. oh please

my cut and paste response, since I need to leave for work now




Two great choices for Supreme Court.

The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

The Matthew Shepard Hates Crimes Prevention Act (which they said could not be done)

Children's Health Insurance

Tobacco Regulation

Credit Card Reform

Student Loan Reform

The Stimulus (including the largest tax cut ever, the largest investment in clean energy ever, the single largest investment in education in our country ever)

Health Reform

Wall Street Reform

The New G.I. Bill

The Food Safety Modernization Act (the most expansive food reform bill since the 1930s)

The Don't Ask Don't Tell Repeal

The New Start Treaty (even when the (R)s said he would never be able to get it passed)

Locking up over half the loose nuclear material in the world in less than half of his first term, something most (R)s thought impossible.




Most of that list is from The Rachel Maddow Show and is included in this clip
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#4077 ...

In that clip she also estimates that ~85% of what President Obama said he wanted to accomplish in his first term had been accomplished in the first half of his first term.

[divvy]

17. Did you bump your head?

Tell me about the Wall Street reform
Tell me about the two "good" justices
Tell me about how Obama had anything to do with DADT
Tell me about how Obama is allowing the destruction of public schools at republican hands
Tell me where the money is coming from for student loans
Tell me exactly what is successful about the so called credit card reform

Tell me, in detail, one good thing he has done that will stand beyond his first term? How does he plan to fight against the republican?

My analysis positively concludes that you must have bumped your head.

[kenfrequed]

21. Yeah

The details are everything in lists like this.

[Motown_Johnny]

23. that is why I included the link to the clip which details it

[Motown_Johnny]

22. just watch the clip from Dr. Maddow's show that I included

then go tell the person with the doctorate in politics that she bumped her head.

If you honestly know so little about things like the credit card reform or what it took to get DADT repealed then maybe you should pay closer attention instead of throwing around insults.

[madrchsod]

15. i wonder if they included medicare?

medicare is mandated from the day you started working.

it`s going to be decided in the federal courts not the state courts.

[NNN0LHI]

16. Good question

:thumbsup: