So here's how messed up things are for Boner...now that he's had his fun blaming the Prez...

[truebrit71]

..and having daily pressers to get his orange mug some teevee time whilst continuing to spread rw lies, he thought he could pull the frying pan out of the fire just in time to proclaim victory to one and all and brag to his base that he'd saved the rich from having to pay a single nickel more, fucked the poor AND saved the US economy all at the same time. Trouble is all, of a sudden he has discovered that the lunatic fringe in his party are sufficient in number that he CAN'T do that because they won't vote for his plan EITHER.

Boner, it turns out, has severely over-played his hand. According to reports this morning on ABC's GMA even Cantor can't control the nutjobs in his party. So here we are on what we are told is the precipice of fiscal disaster and the man who thought he was in control has all of a sudden found out he's not half as clever as he thought he was.

The question is, can anyone in that gaggle of corporate whores in the gop get the Teanderthals to toe the line, or will this fringe group of mentally unhinged imbeciles drive the US economy (and possibly the world's stock markets) right off the edge of a cliff...

We will soon found out...

[seabeyond]

1. i dont think boner was under any illusion he had any control or sway of his parties fringe

i think it was clear to him and the rest of the repugs that the teaparty had the control....

[loyalsister]

11. I think that's true

I also think that he now is in a position where he has to cut them loose and beg Democrats for the votes he needs to get anything passed. I think we should take not at how this particular strategy did not successfully drag the party further right.

[monmouth]

2. Heard on MoJoe that the repubs should declare a "victory" as the

repubs have won this round. This of course, from Buchanan. Went to a repeat of Keith.

[no_hypocrisy]

3. The proverbial rock and the hard place.

Boehner can't appease the minority in his party, the Teabaggers. Can't lead them, can't threaten them, can't bribe them. They want to call the shots and have THEIR policy enacted.

Boehner always has the option of working with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid to make a truly compromise bipartison bill that Obama would sign, making an end run around the Teabaggers. At what political cost? Taking the republicans toward the center. I don't know how many votes that would cost him, but with the right kind of marketing, the compromise could be turned into an asset.

But with the black-and-white mentality of the republicans, I doubt Boehner has the integrity and courage to be a leader in the time of a crisis.

[WhiteTara]

8. Alcoholics rarely have integrity. Boehner is not a leader

he's an opportunist.

[Myrina]

4. ... it's a battle of mild corporate whores vs. shameless abandon corporate whores

... and the Dems can/should just sit back and watch them all eat each other alive.

[emulatorloo]

5. You've nailed it. Note that the WSJ is trying to "reason" w the teabaggers:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1586790

Basically WSJ is appealing to the teabaggers hatred of "Socialist Obama". Logic is if they vote for Boehner plan, Obama will "lose," if they don't Obama will "win"

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"The question now is whether House Republicans are going to help Mr. Boehner achieve significant progress, or, in the name of the unachievable, hand Mr. Obama a victory.

Mr. Obama recognizes these stakes, threatening yesterday to veto the Boehner plan in a tactical move to block any Democratic support. The White House is afraid that it will pass the House and then become the only debt-ceiling vehicle if Mr. Reid can't get 60 votes for his own proposal in the Senate. This would short-circuit Mr. Obama's plan to blame the GOP for a U.S. credit downgrade, any market turmoil, a possible default, and the lousy economy too."

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[peace frog]

7. I LOVE IT

So now the slightly less looney of the RW are trying to rein in the lunatic fringe teabaggers. Good luck with that, suckers!
But by all means, TRY, while we laugh like hell at your increasingly frantic frustration. :rofl:

[MineralMan]

6. self delete

[gateley]

9. Is Cantor really even trying to control the nutjobs? That in

itself is kind of promising.

But yeah, this job is so beyond Boehner's ability. Although I despise him, I honestly believe he, being a seasoned game player, would have agreed to something much sooner. It's humiliating for him to come out with offer after offer, give his tough-ass rebuttal, "Mr. President, those days are over", then have to withdraw his homework because it didn't pass.

If there weren't so much at stake, I'd be loving this.

[Buns_of_Fire]

10. Cantor wants the Big Office.

If by not reining-in his fellow nutbaggers he thinks he can get it, he'll let them run as wild as they want.

[gateley]

12. You're right - he'll do whatever it takes. nt